Safe to go to Win10?

[Jonathan]

The risks are slight if you do it correctly and ask for help if you go wrong rather than messing about without knowing what you are doing.

Before upgrading the OS remove your OS switcher or you’ll end up in trouble, do this by deleting the “c:\program files\insyde” folder on your tablet or move it somewhere safe.

Your BIOS should be OK.

Before you do anything I’d suggest getting your Windows product key as it is stored in the firmware tables, issue the following command from a command prompt on your tablet to do that (don’t include the quotes): “wmic path softwarelicensingservice get OA3xOriginalProductKey”<enter>

I would also image the eMMC drive before doing anything else (http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx or the inbuilt feature in Windows).

Have a Windows 10 32-bit installation USB prepared just in case you need it.

Get the “Chuwi Vi10 Windows 10 S165C-Drivers” package from here

Don’t proceed unless you have access (with full admin rights) to another PC, if anything goes wrong you might need this to fix your tablet.

You will need a keyboard attached to your tablet to complete the upgrade, the keyboard case is fine.

With all the above in place you can upgrade Windows from your tablet as normal.

[Joshua Goldberg]

So before the upgrade I  need to relocate the switcher app. How do I put it back once I’m done upgrading? Do I just restore it to its original location or do I need to reinstall it completely?

[Jonathan]

Joshua Goldberg wrote:

Do I just restore it to its original location or do I need to reinstall it completely?

Neither, if you try to use the OS Switcher installed on Windows 8 with Windows 10 it will immediately shutdown your tablet and switch to Android whenever you try to boot Windows!

You will need to install a version that works on Windows 10 instead, I’m using a version I found posted on another forum (can’t remember where, I’ve attached a copy to this post as a password protected ZIP file use: “chuwi”). No guarantees but it seems to be free of malware etc. and I’ve been using it for months without any issues.

 

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[ImADev]

Joshua Goldberg wrote:

What are the risks of updating to Windows 10?

None, but you will need a wireless or USB mouse as you’ll need to reinstall the touch screen driver.

You can use this from Windows 8.1 to create a backup zip. When you’ve then got Windows 10 install just take a look at the device manager and then restore anything that’s missing. Selecting to update a few of them online will also work.

Joshua Goldberg wrote:

Do I need to upgrade my BIOS first or does the version I have support Windows 10?

You’ve got the same version of the tablet as me. We’ve already got the latest BIOS version installed.

When doing the upgrade to Windows 10 I didn’t need to update the OS switcher. I guess the newer Chuwi Vi10’s come with a version that doesn’t cause any boot issues. The only niggle is that the popup is themed for Windows 8.

[Jonathan]

The Vi10 keyboard case or a USB mouse/keyboard will work, wireless is not neccessary (and in the case of a Buetooth device maybe not even usable).

Double driver didn’t restore the drivers fully for me, I had issues with the WiFi when returning from sleep. IMHO it’s better to use the driver packages from the file that I linked earlier rather than Double driver.

The OS switcher might work now, but there is a version in the wild that doesn’t play nicely with Windows 10 so I think it’s best to take it out as a preventative measure and use a version that’s known to work (I would be interested to know if the switcher I’ve posted is the same as the one that is now on the Vi10).

[ImADev]

Jonathan wrote:

Double driver didn’t restore the drivers fully for me, I had issues with the WiFi when returning from sleep. IMHO it’s better to use the driver packages from the file that I linked earlier rather than Double driver.

For me it was the exact opposite. Double driver restored 1 or 2 missing drivers that the driver pack wouldn’t. I found that the hardware was a little different too as the Vi10 Pro doesn’t have a light sensor, but that driver pack offered a driver for one.

I just checked and my OS switcher is version 1.0.0.4. The one available for download here is 1.0.0.1, so I guess older versions of the tablet had that pre-installed and newer versions of the tablet have been preloaded with the bug fixed build.

[Jonathan]

I have in the past advocated backing up drivers with Double Driver, but with the Vi10 being such a well suported device it’s probably a step that can be safeley ommited if you want to upgrade as simply as possible. Obviously you only install the drivers you need from the driver package, the same goes for double driver.

I concur with the good OS Switcher being version 1.0.0.4. If that’s what’s on the tablet then you’re good to go.

[me2]

• Vi10  Z3736F  32G
• S/N: Q32G2215090****
• BIOS is J1D_S165C_206

I also would like to upgrade to Win10 but have tried twice and after hours of windows saying it is upgrading the error pops up that I need 6 more gig to upgrade. I then have to reinstall Win8.1  but Android is still working….thank goodness.

Is there anyway to install Win10 on my 32G version of Vi10 and still keep Android?

I have not added any programs the tablet is as received new. But shows only 5.36G out of 15.0G free.

Thanks in advance

[Wim]

For me it was possible by placing a 32GB USB stic in Pipo.
It has total have lasted more like 18 hours but it was successful.

[me2]

Wim wrote:

For me it was possible by placing a 32GB USB stic in Pipo. It has total have lasted more like 18 hours but it was successful.

Different tablet but how was the USB formatted, FAT32, NTSF ? I would like to keep the OS on the internal drive. I do have a 32G Micro SD card.

I would like to know if it is possible to change partitions on the internal 32G drive so that the Win10 will upgrade and still have Android for dual boot. I have spent hours searching the forums for a guide but have not found one. I believe this is would be a help to many.

***Started new thread***   #26552

[Wim]

USB stick can also be smaller 8GB is enough I think.
During the update comes into view how much space is needed to continue.
The stick I formatted with FAT32.
After Windows 10 is installed on the USB stick all the old data and the USB flash drive is just out.
The USB stick is only when updating to Windows 10 to unnecessarily fill the internal space of the Pipo with old data.

[Joshua Goldberg]

So I took the plunge on my 64GB and did the in-place upgrade.

Everything went smoothly. No special steps required at all.

[Jörg]

Jonathan wrote:

Joshua Goldberg wrote:

Do I just restore it to its original location or do I need to reinstall it completely?

Neither, if you try to use the OS Switcher installed on Windows 8 with Windows 10 it will immediately shutdown your tablet and switch to Android whenever you try to boot Windows!

Hi Jonathan,

my name is Jörg. That’s my problem at the moment. I have installed the switcher and not get into Windows. Have you any advice for me?

 

[Jonathan]

Hi Jörg,

I like to fix this from the command line. My method is as follows (please note that commands should always be typed without the surrounding quotes):

1.  Prepare a Windows 10 32-bit USB installation drive using either Microsoft’s media creation tool or a pre-download ISO and Tuxboot.
2. Boot the drive created in step one, at the region settings screen press Shift and F10 (a command prompt window should appear).
3. Type “cd /d c:\” followed by enter.
4. Type “dir insyde /ad/s/b” followed by enter. You’ll get a list of places where the switcher is located.
5. For every location type “move <location> <location.old>” with double quotes around the locations. (Note, you can copy and paste to save typing).
6. Exit setup by either closing all Windows or else type “wpeutil reboot” followed by enter into the command window.

As an example this is what you might get for steps 4&5:

C:\>dir insyde /ad/s/b

C:\Program Files\Insyde

C:\>move “C:\Program Files\Insyde” “C:\Program Files\Insyde.old”

1 dir(s) moved.

[Jörg]

Jonathan wrote:

Hi Jörg, I like to fix this from the command line. My method is as follows (please note that commands should always be typed without the surrounding quotes):

1. Prepare a Windows 10 32-bit USB installation drive using either Microsoft’s media creation tool or a pre-download ISO and Tuxboot.
2. Boot the drive created in step one, at the region settings screen press Shift and F10 (a command prompt window should appear).
3. Type “cd /d c:\” followed by enter.
4. Type “dir insyde /ad/s/b” followed by enter. You’ll get a list of places where the switcher is located.
5. For every location type “move <location> <location.old>” with double quotes around the locations. (Note, you can copy and paste to save typing).
6. Exit setup by either closing all Windows or else type “wpeutil reboot” followed by enter into the command window.

As an example this is what you might get for steps 4&5: C:\>dir insyde /ad/s/b C:\Program Files\Insyde C:\>move “C:\Program Files\Insyde” “C:\Program Files\Insyde.old” 1 dir(s) moved.

 

Many thanks for the quick response. I’ll try it.

Best regards

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