Chuwi Hi9

Chuwi Hi9

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  • #76820
    santi_sc
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    I’m thinking of biting the bullet and getting into the Banggood anticipated purchase for a Chuwi Hi9. The idea is to replace a FNF iFive Mini 4S My wife is using now, and has a lot of problems with. As the tablet has not been released yet, I can’t ask for handling impressions, but I may ask for Chuwi’s products past experience. Are they reliable and trustworthy?

    Yes, Chuwi makes good products.
    I think the Chuwi Hi9 can be a good tablet, Many months ago that news about this new model of tablet came out, so I think they have had enough time to polish well the Rom that the tablet carries.

    #76837
    Chris G
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    I hope to have mine very soon, so keep an eye out for the hands-on video maybe next week.

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    #76984
    Carlos Martinez
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    Hi Chris,

    Even if asked this somewhere else, I would like to ask you here. About the FNF iFive Mini 4S problems I’m having.

    As it was on your list of recommended tablets, I wonder if there’s a reliability problem that you can’t judge when you review your samples. The iFive looks very well built, but it freezes and has some other issues. I did read some complaining about it, but I don’t remember where. If you have a suggestion on what to do, please tell me. Perhaps resetting something, I don’t know.

    Going back to the Chuwi Hi9, I wonder what I should do. Gearbest is offering other tablets, but I wonder if they are good: Cube iPlay 8 and 10, Onda V10.

    My application would be watching movies when bus/plane travelling and card games for my wife. The attractive thing about the Chuwi is that it also Windows 10, which might be interesting for hiqh quality audio recordings, which is impossible with Android.

    My only tablet reference is the Teclast X98, which I very much miss and lasted only two years. Are those Cube or Onda tablets worst or better than the Teclast?

    #77477
    Carlos Martinez
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    New contenders have shown on Banggood offers: Teclast 98 and Teclast Master T10.

    The T10 is more expensive than the Chuwi, but screen is 10″. Some other things for the T10.

    Pity none of them is dual OS, as I was looking for a way to record location quality audio, and Android seems to be bad for that. Windows 10 has several programs that can be used.

     

     

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    #77528
    Carlos Martinez
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    Sorry, just now did I see your video on the three best 2017 tablets, and the T10 seems to be your choice. That certainly says a lot for the Teclast.

    It’s a pity you can’t install another OS on it to serve my purposes, or is it possible to install Windows?

    #77553
    santi_sc
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    No, it is not possible to install Windows on that tablet.
    There are several tablets on the market dual operating system, if not you are looking for Windows and Android in a single computer, such as the Chuwi Hi10 Pro and the Hi10 Plus. Tablets with a high level of users in the forums.

    #79380
    Hualalai
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    In case my review of the Hi9 isn’t posted (the submit function hangs)… I received my Chuwi Hi9 today, shipped from Shenzen via Belgium Post (!) registered mail, arriving in Hawaii (the long way around.. .through Belgium and NYC) exactly 2 weeks after placing the order with Banggood.  I surmise that Banggood had inventory in Belgium, so buyers in the EU may get really fast delivery.  Banggood had the lowest price (USD 179) on the day I ordered.  I also got a case for the AllDoCube Freer X9 (an 8.9″ model; the Hi9 is 8.4″) that fits OK (Chuwi doesn’t have a case on the market yet for the Hi9).

    Pros:  1) Laminated, 2560×1600 IPS panel that is as good as, or slightly better than, the ASUS “Zenpad 3 8.0” 2048 x 1536 IPS panel … at half the price of the Zenpad.  The Zenpad uses a Qualcomm® MSM8956 Hexa Core, 1.8 GHz  and Adreno 510 GPU, so Chuwi engineers have pulled a rabbit out of the hat.  Impressive.  2) Native Android 7, no “improvements” added by Chuwi.  Another plus compared to nearly every other non-Google tablet.  3) The Hi9 arrived with a screen protector applied and a spare screen protector… a very nice touch.  I hate chasing bubbles in screen protector applications.  All in all, a great value.   I’m fine with a plastic case and a lower price compared to the metal case tablets.

    Cons:  No support for exFAT file system in the uSD slot or through the uUSB port.  Micro USB-B with 2.0 services and speeds… no USB-C / 3.1 Gen 2.   CPU is stretched to the limit in mp4 playback, and is very sensitive to video player.  VLC player stutters.  X-Player doesn’t stutter.  OTG is supported via the uUSB port, at least with a 32GB SD card formatted plain FAT.

    If you want to load a uSD card with mp4 movies to watch on your Hi9 , you’ll need to dedicate the uSD card to “use as internal storage”, since movies are over the 4GB limit of plain FAT (FAT has a file size limit of 4GB, smaller than any HD movie I have, thus the need for exFAT).  Chuwi chose not to pay the $5.00 license fee to Microsoft to include exFAT in Chuwi’s distro of Android, even though Chuwi promotes the Hi9 to watch movies.  Errr, maybe Chuwi should update the marketing to “watch streaming movies or dedicate your uSD card to internal storage”.   IMO, Chuwi made mistakes in not including exFAT and in not supporting 256GB uSD.

    You might be able to root the system and a install third party exFAT app like Paragon (haven’t tried it).  Being forced to dedicate the uSD to Hi9 internal storage is 0.5 points off.  No USB-C 3.1 Gen 2, and the REALLY SLOW transfer speed to the uSD, take another 0.8 points off.  Final score: 8.7

    The probability of Chuwi updating the Android distro to add exFAT is zero, IMO.  How would Chuwi charge for the exFAT license in an update?  Taking a broader perspective, Chuwi has changed the playing field of 8″ tablets, and Lenovo, HP, and Dell should be worried.

    CoreBook mystery.   I don’t understand why Chuwi successfully implemented 2560×1600 on the Hi9, but fell back to HD on the CoreBook, which has a much more powerful CPU (Intel Core M3 7Y30 and HD 615 GPU).  I cancelled my pre-order for a CoreBook when I saw how good the Hi9 panel was (and don’t want a 13.3″ Windows device that is only HD).

    P.S.  My Teclast X3 Pro is still going strong, but my Teclast x98 Plus 3G simply stopped working after several months.  IMO, there is no brand of Shenzen tablets without weak models in their product line, but Alldocube, Teclast, and Chuwi have fewer weak models than the rest.

    #79418
    Carlos Martinez
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    Why use ex-fat format at all? Why not NTFS?

    Not having usb-3 is a bummer indeed. I wonder why they didn’t add it.

    Interesting you also had problems with the Teclast x98 3G and with the X3. Maybe the x98 is one of their weak models, as you said. Mine lasted two years and stopped working.

    #79421
    Hualalai
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    The Hi9 does not support the NTFS file system.  In fact, native Android does not support NTFS.  Like the exFAT case, third party tools may works, like Paragon.  http://techpp.com/2015/06/25/how-to-enable-ntfs-support-on-android-with-without-root/

    All the Samsung and ASUS Android tablets that I have owned have had a distro of Android that supports exFAT, but not NTFS.

    Step one in owning a Hi9 is to uninstall ES Explorer… an ad-spam app, and install Total Commander.

     

    #79427
    Carlos Martinez
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    That’s strange. I ran files on my old Teclast X98 in Android, and my pen-drives were all formatted in NTFS.

    Only one of my stick-drives runs in ex-fat. I never installed anything to run the files.

    If that’s an Android thing, it’s a very serious limitation.

    #79428
    Hualalai
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    Google:  “does android support ntfs?”

    My  Hi9 will not recognize any uSD card in the uSD slot, or any storage through the USB port, that is not FAT …. unless for a uSD card in the uSD slot you accept “use as internal storage”, in which case the uSD card only works in that particular Hi9 and is not recognized in Windows as formatted in any standard.

    #79444
    santi_sc
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    <span style=”vertical-align: inherit;”><span style=”vertical-align: inherit;”>Google: “¿compatible con Android ntfs?”</span></span> <span style=”vertical-align: inherit;”><span style=”vertical-align: inherit;”>Mi Hi9 no reconocerá ninguna tarjeta uSD en la ranura uSD, ni ningún almacenamiento a través del puerto USB, que no sea FAT … </span><span style=”vertical-align: inherit;”>a menos que para una tarjeta uSD en el espacio uSD acepte “usar como almacenamiento interno”, en cuyo caso la tarjeta uSD solo funciona en ese Hi9 particular y no se reconoce en Windows como formateada en ningún estándar.</span></span>

    Normally the microSD cards and pendrive to be read on Android have to be formatted in FAT32.

    #79480
    Hualalai
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    Agreed.  Native Android only supports FAT.  OEMs can add support for other file systems, including proprietary file systems (one of which is apparently used for “uSD internal storage” on the Hi9).

    I may try the Total Commander/Paragon solution for exFAT on my Hi9.  All my ASUS and Samsung tablets read exFAT native.  Chuwi will need to include exFAT to become a credible contender in the tablet market outside China.  The average buyer will not root or add file systems.

    #79711
    Hualalai
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    Update:  Paragon for exFAT/NTFS file systems on Android does not work on the Hi9.

    #82472
    Hualalai
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