Touchscreen not working on any Android x86 OS

[akasection]

well, so far I blame Spring update…

After I revert to 1709, touchscreen on android starts working again (still, it needs to be sleep/suspend first after boot, and power button does not work as sleep button)

[Hugh]

How are you running Android?  Dual boot with Windows?  Android under Windows (I guess that’s the only way that the Windows drivers would matter)?

[FUCKTECHTABLET]

If you like Android x86 why dont you buy Samsung Galaxy Tab A6 10.1 Spen – LTE 4G?

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[akasection]

@virgosun

Because I need both Android and Windows OS? I think that’s obvious.

And Galaxy Tab A6 only scores ~40.000 in antutu, while Cube Mix Plus scores almost 200.000

@Hugh

ya, under windows, using existing NTFS. I initially tried to separate it into new partition, but it almost has no difference.

[Hugh]

I’ve never tried any of this so my advice isn’t worth much.

In what way are you running Android under Windows?  Are you using Hyper V or some other virtualization?  How touch events get to the guest OS is unknown to me but ought to involve some device virtualization, something with a lot of ways of going wrong (I would imagine).  The appropriate Android driver for touch under Windows might well be different from the Android driver when Android is running on the bare metal.

If you run Android stand-alone, not under Windows, then any driver problems cannot be Windows problems.  Then you just have pure Android problems.  Sounds simpler to me.

Some folks are complaining that Windows updates break the pen driver (I think) and that the fix is to find the old driver and re-install it.  I assume that you are not talking about pen input so this is irrelevant.  I haven’t tried a pen yet.

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akasection wrote:

@virgosun Because I need both Android and Windows OS? I think that’s obvious. And Galaxy Tab A6 only scores ~40.000 in antutu, while Cube Mix Plus scores almost 200.000 @hugh ya, under windows, using existing NTFS. I initially tried to separate it into new partition, but it almost has no difference.

You can buy both. And they both will do there good job

I am going to sell my Cube

I will by a refurbish Galaxy Book and a refurbish Galaxy Tab

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[akasection]

Hugh wrote:

I’ve never tried any of this so my advice isn’t worth much. In what way are you running Android under Windows? Are you using Hyper V or some other virtualization? How touch events get to the guest OS is unknown to me but ought to involve some device virtualization, something with a lot of ways of going wrong (I would imagine). The appropriate Android driver for touch under Windows might well be different from the Android driver when Android is running on the bare metal. If you run Android stand-alone, not under Windows, then any driver problems cannot be Windows problems. Then you just have pure Android problems. Sounds simpler to me. Some folks are complaining that Windows updates break the pen driver (I think) and that the fix is to find the old driver and re-install it. I assume that you are not talking about pen input so this is irrelevant. I haven’t tried a pen yet.

no no no.. I just use the “Install” when boot the android, and follow the wizard. that’s all. And it would be dual-boot (just like ubuntu alongside windows)

It’s just you need to enable USB boot. The android runs natively, not virtual. Driver is the one problem though. And I realized Cube Mix Plus sucks in multitouch interaction. Single touch is absolutely fine.

In addition, the windows runs fine, even after update (except the pen driver, yeah, but I don’t use it. It’s not comfy drawing on non-OGS laminated screen)

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akasection wrote:

@virgosun Because I need both Android and Windows OS? I think that’s obvious. And Galaxy Tab A6 only scores ~40.000 in antutu, while Cube Mix Plus scores almost 200.000 @hugh ya, under windows, using existing NTFS. I initially tried to separate it into new partition, but it almost has no difference.

You can buy both. And they both will do there good job I am going to sell my Cube I will by a refurbish Galaxy Book and a refurbish Galaxy Tab

Well… carrying two extra tablets while having one laptop is TRULY not a wise option. You realizd when I mention antutu, it means I used it for gaming, right? and most android tablets are laggy.

I just wish I can tinker this Cube Mix touchscreen so it would be more responsive on multitouch (2-10 fingers).

[Hugh]

akasection wrote:

no no no.. I just use the “Install” when boot the android, and follow the wizard. that’s all. And it would be dual-boot (just like ubuntu alongside windows)

In that case, I don’t see how a Windows update would have any effect.

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akasection wrote:

Well… carrying two extra tablets while having one laptop is TRULY not a wise option. You realizd when I mention antutu, it means I used it for gaming, right? and most android tablets are laggy. I just wish I can tinker this Cube Mix touchscreen so it would be more responsive on multitouch (2-10 fingers).

Well, not all game will run on Android x86, as you already know. Even Qualcomm cpu is preferred to other name like Exynos or MediaTek in case of gaming.

I already have 2 laptop, and I will have 2 tablet, it is OK.  If I can merger them all to only 1 machine.

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[akasection]

Hugh wrote:

akasection wrote:

no no no.. I just use the “Install” when boot the android, and follow the wizard. that’s all. And it would be dual-boot (just like ubuntu alongside windows)

In that case, I don’t see how a Windows update would have any effect.

Not directly, it’s just after update, my Android OS can’t suspend/sleep at all, which is I can’t do ‘touchscreen enable’ hack. ( ctrl+alt+1 and then echo mem > /sys/power/state)

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Well, not all game will run on Android x86, as you already know. Even Qualcomm cpu is preferred to other name like Exynos or MediaTek in case of gaming. I already have 2 laptop, and I will have 2 tablet, it is OK. If I can merger them all to only 1 machine.

Yes, I am well aware of that, good thing my selection of games works on Intel CPU (no issue so far). And I play steam games too on Windows, so it’s two-birds in a stone. Man, this cube is almost all-rounder good thing, almost.

[Hugh]

akasection wrote:

Hugh wrote:

akasection wrote:

no no no.. I just use the “Install” when boot the android, and follow the wizard. that’s all. And it would be dual-boot (just like ubuntu alongside windows)

In that case, I don’t see how a Windows update would have any effect.

Not directly, it’s just after update, my Android OS can’t suspend/sleep at all, which is I can’t do ‘touchscreen enable’ hack. ( ctrl+alt+1 and then echo mem > /sys/power/state)

So how could a Windows update affect Android, directly or indirectly?

If the update came from Cube, you could imagine them slipping in a UEFI firmware update.  But, as I understand it, you are referring to an update from Microsoft.  I don’t see a path of influence, direct or indirect, from that update to Android.

Hmm.  What’s booting Android?  The UEFI firmware or the Windows boot manager (or whatever it is called)?  I always boot from the UEFI firmware.  If you use the Windows boot manager, I guess that there is some chance that it does some initializing that might have changed between releases.

For what it is worth, Fedora 28 Linux works pretty well on our Cube Mix Plus.  But we don’d do multi-touch things because we use it as a notebook.  The cameras don’t work under Fedora but I haven’t investigated why.

[FUCKTECHTABLET]

Well, there is certain case when Windows affect other OS. As observed in dual boot Hackintosh/Linux with Windows machine, when Bluetooth firmware is downloaded to the board, then a hot-reboot to Hacckintosh/Linux make it work. But this case is touchscreen and Android? First time heard that.

About cameras, it will never work, it connect to i2c not usb.

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[FUCKTECHTABLET]

If you install a distro to the Cube in laptop mode, almost any linux work pretty well on any laptop. Except Debian and kFreeBSD

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[akasection]

One of popular case that Windows system affecting dualboot is the fast startup will break other OS if the windows is the host.

Well, I think I need to clarify the timeline.

1. When I posted the thread, I was on windows 1709 and trying to live-cd Android via USB.
2. After that, I tried to find solutions, and someone in stackoverflow suggested that I need to force “suspend” the android.
3. I initially tried to press power button, but it behaves strangely, instead of sleep, it does power options (reboot, turn off)
4. via linux terminal (Pressing Ctrl + Alt+ 1), I tried to exec echo mem > /sys/power/state ; surprisingly, after suspended and wakeup, touchscreen now works.
5. And then I install android and continue to boot windows, update to 1803.
6. When I switched back to Android and tried to do the ‘hack’, turns out now the Android is cannot even suspend. Even I leave it for 20-30 mins. It won’t sleep. it just screen off.
7. At this point, I assumed that Windows 1803 did something to PC wake/sleep system that makes android86/phoenixOS fail to do the hack, hence the second post of mine.

So, basically the touchscreen driver on Android is actually never work to begin with. It’s the hack who enabled it. That’s all.

[FUCKTECHTABLET]

Fast start-up is relate to file system trace, no thing to do with firmware

For example you can not mount a NTFS partition as Read/Write if fsck failed on that partition.

Something wrong in your assumption

P/S after reading your long procedure. I think, the “WORK-AROUND”, you describe need SUSPEND function of Android.

This may relate to File System trace as you say with FASTBOOT.

That is the only possible explanation of Windows affect in this case

There is nothing to do with touchscreen firmware.

Windows does, in fact affect other dual boot system in term of peripheral firmware download.

Like I said as observed in dual boot Hackintosh/Linux with Windows machine, when Bluetooth firmware is downloaded to the board,

then a hot-reboot to Hacckintosh/Linux make it work.

So it is obvious that different version of Windows has different version of firmware!

All Linux/Hackintosh gurus of the Linux/Hackintosh community know this.

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