Iwork10 USB Type C variant?

[TWICE]

My adapter came. It does not read anything from the type C port. Only charging. I have a 3rd iwork 10 ultimate arriving next week. Will test the type C port again on that tablet.

[TWICE]

Mine came with factory pasted screen protector.

As for charging, I am able to get more than 2A even though it only states 5V 2A. To be more precise, I was able to get 5.12V 2.39A using my Anker 60W multi port charger(support up to 5V 2.4A 12W in total per port) so I believe it can go higher, which I will test with my S7 Edge charger when I get home tonight.

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Don’t buy the USB-c version (rev2). I have it and it’s scam, compare to the rev1 version:

• no USB 3.0 (the usb-c port is usb 2.0 wired). Already asked at gearbest and they confirmed it: http://i.imgur.com/c3IzkEV.png (what a joke)
• slow charge, it just charges “fast” if it’s powered off then it takes about 5hours to charge from 0 to 100%
• usb-c port cant give enough power to power it while it’s on, it alway goes back to 98% then charges to 100%, stays a bit, and charges again, in a loop. This just happens if you use the device a “bit” for example watching a movie or watch twitch.tv at source. or just test it with prime95
• DDR3 instead of DDR3L, this is bad because it drains way more power, but also means more heat, and unstable at higher speeds. thatfor it’s set to 1066MHz.
• DDR3 is clocked at 1066MHz instead of 1600MHz, which is a huge speed loss. Tried to set it to 1600MHz resulting in random reboots and app force closes (both Windows and Android).
• cheap and slow Toshiba/Hynix eMMC, 30-50% slower than the Samsung MMC in rev1. The Toshiba has around 30MB/s write speed, where Samsung one has 77MB/s
• So far had lots of bluescreens, mostly related to the Realtek Wifi driver, also had some freezes yet in Windows while sticking in a USB pen

Samsung eMMC:
http://techtablets.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/eMMC-speeds-300×272.png

Hynix eMMC:
http://i.imgur.com/eAD98oV.png

Toshiba eMMC:
http://i.imgur.com/tmTmjPY.png

[Tmon]

I have just received my usb c version today, can confirm it’s a Hynix eMMC, a lot faster than my Hi8 with the bwin so not too disappointed with that. I am disappointed with the colour accuracy however, don’t know if they’re using different panels now as Youtube videos looked much better. It’s the blue that’s out, not too much but it’s noticeable. Other colours are ok. No problems with Sandisk Ultra 128gb yet (formatted as FAT32)

[Hans Sprungfeld]

@Tmon Yes, I can confirm the bad colors too, if I compare it with my Venue 8 Pro or my laptop, both have IPS panels, but the colors are way “weaker” on this rev2 one. Not sure if rev1 has better panel because I havent seen it. It’s still fine because it’s IPS, but it’s way worse than my other IPS tablets, color wise. I guess you’re right, blue is missing a bit which causes all mixed colors to look weaker.

[Andrew]

To follow up on Hans comment above, most of what he posts appears to be correct. I’ve had my iWork10 for about a week now. Some general feedback:

• No stability issues but I don’t work it very hard.
• My eMMC drive is model Toshiba 064GEA – running CrystalDiskMark I get ~135 MB/s reads and ~40 MB/s writes (sequential); 20 MB/s reads and ~20 MB/s writes (4k). These are slower than the version reviewed, but seems in line with other budget tablets.
• According to CPU-Z, my ram type is DDR3 with a frequency of 800 MHz. I couldn’t find reference to the type of RAM in version 1, but if it is indeed DDR3L @ 1,600 MHz, then this is a massive hit in performance. For those who do not know the difference, DDR3L is the low power variance of DDR3 – more expensive, but uses less power. If Cube did switch in the cheaper RAM, it would make sense for them to clock it lower to keep power draw/heat/battery life to a manageable level.
• With charging, the tablet cannot keep up under full load. However, the other tablets I have also cannot charge fast enough to offset constant usage so I don’t know what my expectation should be. (Or maybe I need to buy one of the turbo charger things!)
• USB-C is really annoying despite the argument with “future proof.” The provided cable is quite short (3 ft?) and it is tiring that I can only charge it via USB-C port, not the Micro USB port. USB-C cables are also much more expensive than Micro USB cables if you want to buy a spare/longer one. I know it is the future, but I don’t want to be making early adopter purchases forced by a budget tablet.

Despite the cheaper parts the tablet is still pretty quick for what I need it to do, so I am still generally happy. Perhaps that will change if I start having stability issues though. As to whether to buy version 1 vs version 2, I guess it comes down to price. Version 2 does appear to be a bit cheaper, but you give up some performance for that. That combined with the annoying USB-C port makes me regret not buying version 1 for a bit more, but I can understand that different people may weigh the pros/cons differently.

[Aurélien Dispenza]

Hi,

I buy the iwork10, can I charge with the type c port or is just for read HDD ou USB KEY ?

Thanks

 

thats and that are good ?

 

http://www.gearbest.com/iphone-cables-adapters/pp_336103.html

http://www.gearbest.com/samsung-cables-adapters/pp_264414.html

 

Thanks

[Andrew]

You can ONLY charge via USB-C. A cable comes with the tablet.

Wouldn’t trust an adapter that cheap regardless. USB-C cables are more complex than prior ones since it carries more voltage and data. Many cases of fried electronics – so make sure you buy one with the right specs. Even many of the more expensive ones on Amazon are not to spec, nevermind one a fraction of the price.

[Anonymous]

Really bad that gearbest.com still claims that the tablet have DDR3L memory in the description of the tablet.

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Reporting back to the random bluescreens problem I have. I figured out it is totally related to the RAM, not the Realtek Wifi driver. If I set the RAM to 1600MHz, the tablet freezes mostly after 1-2 minutes, after entering connected standby (display off / power button press). When I switch back to the default value of 1066MHz, it becomes more stable, still had a freeze and bluescreen (reboot) at least once every 1-2 days in standby, both under Android and Windows. Most people wont notice this I guess, because the device reboots and when they turn it on again, they are in login screen. You have to go in Windows, system control, and look under the “reliability monitor”: http://i.imgur.com/JGfZANo.png

Look if you have red x there, and then it’s mostly “hardware error” or “unexpected shutdown”, meaning there was a bluescreen while the device was in standby.

A friend of mine has the c-version too and the same hardware error bluescreens in his logs, mostly happen every 1-3 days at least once under Windows, if you let it idle in standby.

It could also be, that some might be lucky, and they have different RAM in their tablets, which are 1600MHz compatible, same with the three different eMMC manufacturers.

I found another blog entry somewhere for the Teclast X98, where one person said his version had 1066MHz RAM too. He contacted Teclast and they told him, that this was a change for “stability reasons”. My suggestion is, that those Chinese corps changed the newest version of these cheaper tablets, for example the rev2/usb-c version of the iwork10, so it would become 20-50$ cheaper, and my bed is they used cheaper RAM, mostly old ones they could buy for just a few bucks. If you look with a tool/bios you will also notice, that the RAM in this version has no JEDEC information about what kind of RAM it is, it’s just noted that it’s manufactured by Hynix, and my bed is, it’s not even 1066MHz compatible, mostly just 800MHz.

This is also the reason why this tablet is so incredible slow under Windows. Every Windows 10 animation lags / drops frames. But it cant be the only reason behind it, it seems there is some kind of clocking issue with the CPU too, because my older Venue 8 Pro 8″ tablet is silky smooth under Windows 10, and its CPU, an Atom z3740 is weaker than the x5-z8300.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the very detailed information regarding the issue Hans, looks like I should wait a bit and see if if anything new comes on the horizon.

[mikroLED]

@andrew and hans: Hi andrew and hans, can you provide us with screenshot of CPU-Z on the  memory tab?

On andrew post he mention the freq he see on the CPU-Z is 800 mhz, which means the real memory frequency is 1600 mhz( the cpu-z program read the frequency of DDR memory as half of it, then user self must multiply it by 2  for the real world Double Data Rate speed) . I’m know how to read cpu-z data because i do overclock on my pc.

Edit: and a crystal disk mark benchmark screenshot of the new type c variant. Andrew said in his post, if we compare to Chris G deep review of the original iwork10,   the type c has the slower SEQ R/W, but somehow has faster 4K R/W, that’s really make me confused……..

For the reference though,  i found a user from the original iwork10 (not the type c variant), has the toshiba emmc too, which is  in this thread:

iWork10 Ultimate Site review

 

If iwork10 Usb type c is really a downgraded version of iwork10 original, it’s really shame practical marketing for cube and put off the hype for someone who wants to buy it(include me)

 

Can we request the owner of techtablets(Chris G)to  do a deep review about this type c version to put off our doubt about it?

[Aurélien Dispenza]

Andrew wrote:

You can ONLY charge via USB-C. A cable comes with the tablet. Wouldn’t trust an adapter that cheap regardless. USB-C cables are more complex than prior ones since it carries more voltage and data. Many cases of fried electronics – so make sure you buy one with the right specs. Even many of the more expensive ones on Amazon are not to spec, nevermind one a fraction of the price.

Thanks you man ! ?

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Anonymous wrote:

Thanks for the very detailed information regarding the issue Hans, looks like I should wait a bit and see if if anything new comes on the horizon.

Take a look at this one looks way more promising: http://techtablets.com/2016/07/chuwi-vi10-plus-surface-3-32-ratio-screen-remix-os-options/

It would fix the slow charing and power not enough while on issue because of this change: “It also has a USB 3.0 Type-C port with 5V 3A fast-charging support”

Also the Remix OS is awesome for tablets. I will mostly install it too in my iwork10 at some point replacing Android 5.1. Take a look at this review of the Remix OS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbrbki6B1AY

[Hans Sprungfeld]

CPUZ shows wrong value for this RAM, you need to open Windows task manager and look what it says. Or use HWiNFO64

http://i.imgur.com/8GvR72x.png

http://i.imgur.com/irMQRvi.png

My benchmarks of the Hynix and Toshiba were already both from rev2.

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