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Huawei m3 tablet has a fast processor and top notch build quality, but has a slower GPU and more on expensive side.

Used that tablet and pretty satisfied for the price, however it is definitely most expensive compared to another Chinese tablets.

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Not really a fan to use Windows 10 as tablet mode.

I think it will be so expensive with that feature packed in it. At the point where it might be better to top up a bit to buy a proper Microsoft Surface. The point of buying Chinese tablet for me is just finding a cheaper solution than something provided by Microsoft or Apple.

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My HiBook Pro got problems from the start (useless USB 3, flaky touchscreen, poor performance) and dead at the end (the power management chip short circuited internally). It has a very good screen (High Resolution, good brightness, and OGS) though.

Cube iWork 10 is a great budget choice, it is still alive and still working just as new until now. I will give short opinion about the feature you stated on my previous experience, new revision might fixes the issue I experienced.

• I doubt the refreshed CPU will give any noticeable speed improvement. The tablet was fine for basic task, especially considering the price.
• The keyboard dock will randomly disconnect if you move the tablet, so just be careful, especially when you have storage device connected.
• The keyboard is very comfortable for day to day use, no complain there. You need to disable the Windows 10 gestures on the touch pad using AutoHotKey to disable annoying gestures when using the touchpad.
• I would not recommend the active stylus for frequent use, seemingly not as good as my Samsung tab, and noticeably slower. It also uses battery so much, even you don’t use it frequently.
• Dual OS is major feature for me, as Windows 10 doesn’t really friendly for tablet media consumption. BUT, I mostly use it as Windows 10 mode before I gave away the tablet.
• Cannot give any comment about USB type-c, just hope it doesnt have USB 3.0 speed bug just like my old HiBook Pro.
• 64GB is fine for my usage (a bit low on Android), and the micro SD card reader on my tablet is faulty. It will not read SDHC / SDXC properly. I only put 8GB card in it, as it is the only card reliable and survive multiple reboot.
• Never used the MicroHDMI feature, I have my PC for desktop use.
• The battery is fine, but it charges relatively slow now (informed by the current owner), probably the power IC also busted ?. Never check it again, not mine now.
• Single band wifi is fine for that tablet, the CPU power doesn’t even allow 4K youtube. I personally always bring USB 3.0 to gigabit ethernet as I use that tablet frequently to setup router/cctv/server/pabx, etc on client area.

My opinion? If you really need budget choice and dual OS support, this is probably what will I get, you can’t go wrong with it. It is cheap, very good quality compared to another chinese tablet. Another tablet choice is also stated on my previous post.

I never tried another tablet until now, still waiting for tablet as I stated on my previous post.

Thank you, I am just a consumer that want to share my experience about the Chinese tablet I bought.

 

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I personally think that those Intel Atom tablets are not worth to buy anymore.

It is already a quite an old chip, relatively slow (but still usable for basic task), and the price is still same as it first launch few years ago.

If you aim for mobile PC, I personally think you better off CUBE Mix Plus with new Kaby Lake processor. It has 10.6″ screen and pen input. Cube clearly have a relatively good quality compared to other chinese tablet OEM. I don’t know it is OGS or not, you can check Chris review for that.

However, any processor than Atom will not have Android system in the future, as Intel already dropped their support for Android in their x86 platform. Most Intel android tablet will stuck at 5.1 or 6.0 if it came with it.

If you really need a dual boot tablet, how about Telcast Tbook 16 Power. A bit bigger screen (11.6″), but with 8GB memory, and faster Atom Z8750 processor. For cheaper choice, I think Cube iWork10 is also very good. I don’t really like Chuwi, after my HiBook Pro just fails after three month of usage.

I personally will wait N3450 tablets with 6GB RAM in the future. 4GB RAM seems a bit low for today tasks for me, and I definitely don’t want to buy another Atom processor. Kaby Lake m3 tablets is too expensive for me, and most only have 4GB of RAM to begin with.

This is just my opinion. Feel free to correct me.

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mine already broke in power management chip (shorting out inside) few months ago.

the touch screen is horrible on Windows as described on other forum post.

The screen is amazing though, speaker and the build quality is very good.

i don’t recommend this tablet at all. other experience may vary.

the keyboard is a must for me, the touch screen keyboard is next to unusable in my unit last time.

you can read my review on various thread on this subforum. I forgot which one already, i do write all the positive and negatives and few benchmarks.

Please take note I am the one using the first revision of Hi Book pro (literally bought it when it is on sale on china on the first release), new one probably fixed all the issue.

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Diego Alves wrote:

Look, the Google engineer who tested numerous cables advised me to use charger type c / c type because they are safer in terms of charging (5V / 3A). My tablet is “booting” usually just is without battery. But I do not want any “advantage” switching charger. I just want to avoid future problems with the “fried USB port” understand? And I agree with you that the cable appears to be very weak … But what you tell me of boots that I showed, seem to be good?

Actually yes, for 5V 3A current, it is the best to buy a special USB-C charger that can carry that amount of power, rather than a normal USB that probably only rated 2.4A max. I believe fried USB port is quite rare, but still a possibility since we are pulling more power than the specification.

If you want to safety solution, USB-C with 5V 3A charger and USB-C cable probably the best bet now. I am just not sure about charging standards that this tablet uses. Definitely not Qualcomm QuickCharge 3.0 since this is Intel Chipset. Most likely will just work correctly though.

For third party charger brand, I only trust Anker for now. I don’t trust any other brand for now (unless the one comes with this tablet, since I cannot find 5.5V 3A charger, other charger only output around 5V). However, Anker doesn’t have USB-C charger that output 3A, only maxed around 2.4A.

If you happens to buy the USB-C charger, I would love for you to review it so that I can think about replacing this shoddy looking charger with something more proper, or better with double USB port.

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Diego Alves wrote:

Thanks for answering you are helping me a lot. Do you suggest me a charger type c? I was looking at this two, looks good? https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Type-C-Lumia-Supported-Devices/dp/B017I7EX46 http://www.tronsmart.com/product-w2pe-wall-charger And I have no cables / chargers type c. This is my first device type c.

I suggest you to try to use your phone charger first, if that doesn’t work, I don’t think another charger or special USB-C charger will help you. I don’t believe USB-C on the tablet full conforms to USB-PD specification, so, buying a special Type-C charger will not bring any advantages.

Also does your tablet boot up already? I starting to see this a tablet hardware failure.

If another charger still doesn’t charge it, if possible find another USB-C cable. The included USB-C cable quite flaky to be honest, although does the job quite fine.

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taddosch wrote:

Hi dlink, did you first peel off the preinstalled plastic film before installing the glass? I also ordered already and hope it fits better then..

@taddosch Of course I peel off the plastic film first, it has so many dust behind it to begin with, which is the main reason why I buy the tempered glass.

If you buy the correct one for this tablet it will fit perfectly. Just make sure it is 100% clean from dust before installing it because it is so HARD to remove it, since it stick so well (the original screen doesn’t have any oleophobic layer, so the glue stick 100%, unlike phone screen, and it is not glass screen, it is hard plastic).

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Chris G wrote:

@dlink377 Where are the Intel DPTF settings in the bios? Is it disabled by default? Normally I don’t touch any bios settings.

It is on Thermal, I believe it is on second tab? Doesn’t really remember it though.

I also doesn’t touch most of the BIOS settings, since I believe the BIOS is quite fragile and have no fail-over or reset to begin with. I’ve seen forum posts someone kill their device by just disabling I2C on BIOS accidentally.

The DPTF is enabled by default. I tried to set it back to default before running the second test by re enabling DPTF and setting the Pre-allocated Video RAM to 256M and Aperture size 256M. I don’t really notice any performance degradation since then, probably will keep the default for the time being. Extra 256M for this memory hungry chrome can’t be so bad :).

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Diego Alves wrote:

It does not make any noise when connecting it seems to me that the cable entry is too large or the tablet connector came defective and is short. And I’ve been talking to Google engineer about cable type C, he told me that the type cables are hazardous and can burn the inputs if they are of poor quality. I showed photos charger also and he told me that probably the charger that came with the tablet is also not reliable. entry with boots “USB A / Type C” can not provide the correct power and generate future problems. Only chargers “Type C / Type C” are more reliable for delivering the same current. Now I am in doubt whether I use the charger Chuwi or buy a new one.

Using another charger doesn’t have any difference? Such as connecting to your phone charger or to the PC.

If you have any other USB-C devices, you can always try that. I also experienced the problem, sometime the charger is not detected and just simply not charging until few tries of re plugging.

If it is still not working (the red light doesn’t light up), probably the cable, which is quite fragile to begin with.

Of course, If you can buy proper USB-C charger, it is so much better then, just make sure it can output 5V 3A properly (although most of it can output multi voltage 5V, 12V, etc). Also take note that I don’t believe USB-C on this tablet conforms to USB-PD standards properly, unlike those Core M3 tablet with Type-C.

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I had the similar USB-C adapter and it is not working for me. I guess my USB-C port already broken, since when I connect the charger, it will always shows USB device not recognized error. I suppose they install the cheapest USB-C port they can find on the market, and I got the lemon :(.

At least I can still charge with it, probably on the data pins broken.

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How about changing cable and the charger? Do you hear any USB plugged sound when connecting the cable to the tablet? Try connecting it to another USB charger? Cleaning the port and the cable?

I find that USB-C plug quite fragile, especially on the cable part. The pins on the USB-C male could be bent and short the pins on the opposite side (it is dual sided). I already throw away 3 cables because of that.

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Andy B wrote:

I just looked up my results and it says I was on driver version 20.19.15.4380. Driver 20.19.15.4380 – Score: 13,884 Driver 20.19.15.4463 – Score: 10,854 Driver 20.19.15.4444 – Score: 12,109 (updated to Windows 10.0.14367 – Insider Preview, Fast Ring) I’m currently on the last one, but now that I looked up these driver versions I’ll see if 4380 is still better.

I see my driver version is 4352, do I need to update it?

Windows Update never offer me new Intel HD Graphics driver though, and I get a relatively good result even when dialing back the Video RAM to 256MB and re-enable Intel DPTF.

Although the score is high, I still feel my tablet is slower than the previous iWork 10, especially the Android part. Anyway, I don’t game on 10″ screen, so those 3D Mark score doesn’t mean so much to me.

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Just for comparison sake, these are my benchmark I’ve ever done on my HiBook Pro.

Please take note that I dedicated 512MB of my RAM for Video since it is 2K screen, probably requires much more RAM.

It is plugged to the charger and Intel DPTF is disabled. Room temperature is around 23.

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Daniel Wong wrote:

I meant to say that I don’t think my ‘updated’ Hibook’s screen is OGS despite the image saying so – there is a definite large gap between the screen and the glass and it’s nothing like my iPhone. I’m a little disappointed but the screen is still bright and clear nevertheless. For the touch issue: I can type rapidly without problems (I suspect yours may be some lag, especially if you’re referring to the Hibook pro), but I do experience similar things on Chrome as you do. For me though, I think it’s a Chrome thing though, since I’ve not experienced anything as such on Edge and have always used Edge as a result. I believe Chris has spoken before on how Edge is far more optimised on atom tablets (and generally better for touch imo). Yep, ezbuy was formerly 65daigou. You can find deals like this all the time on Taobao actually, the Tbook 10 went on sale for 1079 yuan with the keyboard two hours on 聚划算 too. I’ll have the adapter by Friday latest and review it for y’all, including the tablet itself too. If any of you have anything specific you’d like me to test, do let me know too  

I also suspect that too, but after manually setting the resolution to 1920×1200, the problems still exists, some touch when typing is not registered, even when a bit slow typing or backspace some words. Most likely it is hardware problem in my case. A bit lazy to return it since other things are quite perfect, and I’ve read on Chuwi forums that theirs service is taking too much time.

I’ve tried Microsoft Edge, it is so much better than Chrome. However, there are no adblocking solutions available on Edge right now, and I really love my uBlock Origin to be there. Edge is much faster, more optimized for touch devices, and scrolling doesn’t suck at all. Until any adblocking solution exists on the Edge, I will stick with Chrome for now (Firefox also have similar bad performance with Chrome).

I’ve used Taobao for few years already, but I rarely use other function, since I just mainly search it directly rather than using the promotions page like 聚划算 ju.taobao.com. Any other ways to find good deals?

I just recently noticed, that watching YouTube on the tablet makes the CPU 100%, even I am just watching 720P videos. Watching 1080P videos will just shutter and unwatchable. Do you also experienced it? I never experience this on my previous tablet iWork 10, although it is peaking the CPU, but 1080P still playable.

Chris G wrote:

So it is true that Chuwi has fixed this with a hardware revision. I heard it was fixed from QKQI (Aliexpress seller). Others also have better performance in Windows 10 than in my review, so good to know it’s at least fixed. Shame my first batch model has that issue as it’s a must for me a tablet than can power HDD’s. I’ve tried that Type-C adapter, it does work at all, nothing. It’s suited to 18volts for the Macbook air I think.

I am looking forward for anyone that has some skill in hardware side to let us know how to fix the power problem on the first batch, maybe some soldering or hardware mod can gives some extra power to the dock. I don’t really mind to tear this thing apart since it is not that expensive to begin with.

Are the Windows 10 performance increased on the new revision? I am really looking forward for what modifications that needs to be done on my current tablet. Although the speed is acceptable, it is definitely slower than my previous iWork 10.

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