[Christian Stocker]

Mhh, I did the calibration yesterday. My device did show 7 % for about an hour, then suddenly shut down. When I restarted it, it showed 3 % left. But there is no noticable difference now. While drinking coffee this morning and reading some news, it went from 99 to 90 %. 3 hours of standby time took another 10 percent. So maybe standby time got slightly better.

[Christian Stocker]

Thanks a lot. This is a huge difference in standby-time.

I meanwhile was looking around to understand the calibration-process. This website deliveres high-quality information and help to get rid of myths: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration

[Christian Stocker]

John J wrote:

Thanks for the information Christian. Not long before the Anniversary Update will be available, so I’ll just wait.

Yes I’m waiting too for this update. It seems you will not always be able to revert from the insider preview to a regular installation. Really hope that with the anniversery update my constant app-errors (on all my win 10 devices) come to an end. I heard you will be able to reinstall individual apps easier than now.

[Christian Stocker]

Timofey wrote:

Did anyone succeed with android update using TeclastOTA? I have “unknown error” message when tried this. Did anyone know how to root it? Which android build have you people? My Tbook 10 has: 5.1, core ver. 3.14.37, build v1.04_20160325.

Same here:

• OTA not working. Same error-message.
• Just checked the version. Same as yours.
• Bryan wrote in another thread (WIFI ? Android rebooot ?) that he failed to root the device for unknows reason, if I remember it right.

[Christian Stocker]

Pete Scoffield wrote:

Why does it tag my name? I didn’t say that, lol. Anyway honestly I wouldn’t take this tablet to use a pen on it. Those kind of tablets are usually expensive, this one is just $179.

I did a lot of stylus testing in the thread where I adressed my stylus problems with my first stylus which was doa. conclusion: Main reason to get it, if you use windows desktop apps without attached mouse. You will be able to fine-point the app better than with your bigger fingers. Also scribbling around in office-universal apps works good. But no palm rejection, and recognition is to slow for handwriting.

[Christian Stocker]

Timofey wrote:

Christian Stocker wrote:

Strange enought apps to sd did not work in android, might be a android 5 restriction.

Did you ment that SD card is not accessable in Android? If this is a problem – just format it fat32, not NTFS.

Yes I can use it for storing data in android and it is indeed formatted in some kind of fat-format. But a lot of android-apps refuse to access the card and typical apps for running your android-apps from the sc-dard (apps-to-sd III) do not allow to do that. Which might be a general android 5.1 restriction requiring to root the device.

I also was able to share data on the card between windows and android. And I did set windows to store its apps on the card and even could install photoshop and lightroom full desktop version and all dropbox sync-data on the card, by creating hard links (mklin /j) betweend the windows file system and the sd-card.

[Christian Stocker]

Growl wrote:

Timofey wrote:

I have exactely the same count 20713 using HWInfo. So I think it’s can’t be true (same cycles count in different batteries) and suppose to be a software issue. My battery works in about the same way – better lifetime on Win10 and pretty fast discharge using Android. After discharging to 7% – working very long on it (up to 2 hrs) and when fast drop to under 5% and switching off. I made battery calibration using android app, after that – this long-lasting phase moved to 21%. <noscript></noscript>http://cs5-1.4pda.to/8228324/_20160613_011732.jpg?s=00042f6b81f28fe9575e820a000000008f8d215ca2f1afef1c48002036aa9f3a

I didn’t use HWInfo, however I processed exactly like you, with a battery calibration. That’s interresting because I obtained the exact same pattern with the discharge (pause at 7% before calibration and now 21 % after calibration). When it pauses, you can use the tablet for quite a long time before the battery suddendly drops and finally shuts down at around 3 %. Which means that without issues, the battery life expectancy could be actually quite good. There is no informations in the battery usage menu in android, which is odd… Also, the battery discharges by itself when the tablet is in sleep, even if the wifi, localization and such are disabled. After a battery calibration, it can last for 2.5 days in sleep before the battery is empty, doing nothing. Annoying. Pretty sure there is a software issue here, the ROM is rubbish AND the calibration wasn’t done properly I guess… Except that, the tablet is working fine, I just have sudden rebooting issues from time to time, and the tablet is quite lazy to wake up when you press the power button but I can live with that…

Interesting to hear, that you too encounter sudden reboots.
Did I miss anything while reading through this thread: How do you do this battery-recalibrations? Do I get you right, you now have a 2.5 day sleep mode battery life? Windows I assume, as there is no sleep mode in android?

[Christian Stocker]

I did install the Insider Preview, without any problems about a week ago. But I did not test it. I got no errors while installing. But had to be patient, because rebooting and installing took some time where I was tempted to belive the device got stuck and nearly turned it off while installing.

The reason I did not test the insider preview: I got the startmenu-bug and tried to repair it using the insider preview. This did not help so I reverted to the Windows-Refresh-Function.

[Christian Stocker]

Bryan wrote:

I tried for a couple days in different methods to root the tbook 10, all to no avail. I’m not too sure why either. I never had any issues whatsoever on my tablet in Android though.. I hope my replacement is just as good as my old one was.

Your last sentence adresses a concern, which I also have. Geekbuying offered me a refund.

But in the last 3 days I only had one single android reboot (device was just turned on and booting, while I tried to mute sound for not waking up my family). The device seems to be much more stable after I uninstalled all chinese apps which came preinstalled and also the teclast boot-manager. As much as I know android does not need a thirdparty bootmanager. Also there was “mobile data” turned on in the boot manager. But the device has  no mobile data.

Now I’m considering to keep the device as it is.

PS: Did you ever connect headphones? The sound seems to be pretty good. But I found, when the headphones are connected using cable every touch on the screen gives a ugly knock in the headphones (tested with spotify). So when you listen to music and want to read someting or use anykind of app, you get this disturbance. I did not have this problem when listening via bluetoot.

[Christian Stocker]

Mine is currently shipping. I will be able to tell more when I get it.

There are a lot of so said reviews around, from people who don’t have the device yet.

I wouldn’t bother these small size and weight differences. I’m rather interests in the battery life and overall stability. Because I bought my first Chinese tablet 3 weeks ago.The battery life is terrible and the android system randomly reboots.

So I hope the phone will be more stable.

[Christian Stocker]

@Thunder: This does not really seem to be a solution for your device. Mine had no wifi issues anymore since changing the 20 Mhz settings.

@Bryan: As I described in this thread: http://techtablets.com/forum/topic/tbook-10-android-suddenly-restarting/ I lost my patience with the android restarting problem. I therefore just applied @geekbuying for a refund. I’m generally a bit frustrated with my experience also I had a lot of warranty discussions (aliexpress, stylus and keyboard for tbook 10) and found that the service-culture is completely different from switzerland. I probably was very naive regarding these things. – Even having a few days off for reinstalling and testing, I did not really enjoy to do this.

But what I enjoyed was the great comradeship with you guys. This reminds me to my military time. We are in the same boat seeking help and support, where the company is missing to help. These forums have no hatred, no flaming, they don’t even need moderation. We are all patient and helping. Great experience. Great from techtablets.com to provide these forums.

[Christian Stocker]

Christian Stocker wrote:

Just wanted to let you know, that I did Factory-Reset Android using the settings. After that I found some apps, which were not installed before (maybe deleted in pre-shipment-testing). It took me a lot of time to configure my 90 apps again. Now the problem is not solved it happens for ex. while retrieving Gmail. The app get’s stuck, the “knock” is heareable over the speakers and the device reboots. Then the new Emails show up. – Will try now your suggested 20 MHz Router Setting from this Thread: http://techtablets.com/forum/topic/tbook-10-cant-connect-to-network/#post-39895

After 2 further days of testing I came to the following results:

• Network connection stable now, no connection losses after changing the 20 MHz Router Settings (this is a good workaround at home, but you will not get the IT-Support of hotels, or companies to do that for you).
• Rebooting not solved at all. There has been a full day without it. But then yesterday 3 reboots, partly leaving apps destroyed (had to reinstall chrome-browser). Also sometimes the device screen just gets dark and then the device is off and needs manual reboot.
• I found, that system event log ist only availabe with root. Rooting will void your warranty. So there is no way to find out if this is a hardware or driver issue (anyway you can’t install additional drivers without rooting in android, as much as I know).

So I’m now diskussing with geekbuying.com about getting refund for the device. Overall after 3 weeks of testing and installation, a rather frustrating experience. The windows part seems to be more stable, alas I did less testing there. But in the end I’ve chosen the tbook 10 for his dual boot capabilities.

[Christian Stocker]

Getting picture upload errors. Can not edit my previous uploads. This functionality seems to be missing in this form.

[Christian Stocker]

I got my second stylus and this one works now.

My thoughts about the functionality

• Does not support palm rejection! It is rather like a fine point version of touch-finger-handling. As soon, as you put your palm on the screen, this does not affect mouse handling, because the screen is 10finger multitouch. But for ex. in Sketchbook or One-Note the stylus draws a zic-zac-line between your palm and the pen tip. – I therefore checked all the windows-settings, for the possibility to disable multitouch, but this was not possible.
• Using the Windows-Stylus writing-recogintion area: The stylus is recognized very slow, slower than touch tiping text. But it is recognized.
• Using writing with background character recognition in one-note. This is not usable, as the stylus writing shows so slow and takes drawing-curves of letters so bad, that you can barely recognize your handwriting as letters.
• Using the Stylus as a Lightroom Photoretouching Brush: Not working, As of Lightroom and Photoshop Version CC the Finger-Touch Function has been disabled. The Stylus is recognized as a finger.

The stylus can be used best for these things:

• Windows-Desktop-Applications with small menu’s. While having no keyboard and no mouse. You can touch-type much more precise than with your fingers.
• Scribblinig graphical sketches using One-Note
• Scribbling or Highlighting, but not handwriting-commenting in the Office-Universal-Apps (Word, Excel, Powerpoint).

 

Pictures of my first brocken stylus

As I refused to get refunded with the first stylus which came broken (shipping cost on me and to hi), I found that mine could be opened, probably becaus it got hit in the middle section while shipping. I enclosed some pictures bringing clarity about some other questions:

• Chris G. wrote, he is not shure why his stylus is not acting sensitive: Look at my pictures, they show that the metal-tip has to be seperated by a black rubber part from the outer metal shell. The outer metal shell, beeing hold by your hands, seems to transform some kind of electricity to the back of the pen (see the contact on the black plastic part which is the intersection of front and back of the stylus). Maybe your stylus tip has contact to the outer meta shell?
• Questions regarding pressure sensitivity: There is none at all. The metal-tip is soldered directly to the cardboard. The cardboard slides into a gap of the stylus. Nowwhere  feathers or pressure contacts.
• Questions regarding screen protectors: It seems the contact of the tip works better without screen protector, but on the other hand you likely risk to scrat your screen which might get into your sight, while looking at the full-hd resolution. The pixels are so small.

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[Christian Stocker]

Just wanted to let you know, that I did Factory-Reset Android using the settings. After that I found some apps, which were not installed before (maybe deleted in pre-shipment-testing). It took me a lot of time to configure my 90 apps again.

Now the problem is not solved it happens for ex. while retrieving Gmail. The app get’s stuck, the “knock” is heareable over the speakers and the device reboots. Then the new Emails show up. – Will try now your suggested 20 MHz Router Setting from this Thread: http://techtablets.com/forum/topic/tbook-10-cant-connect-to-network/#post-39895

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