Touchpad improvements for EZBOOK 3 PRO

Touchpad improvements for EZBOOK 3 PRO

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  • #75867
    Wolf
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    What drivers are you using on your V3 machine?

    None; just the default Windows stuff. …

    Then you do not have any gesture control cause I am at the same stage after adding your registry keys and I can remember that it had been a lot better with the driver before the creators update killed many of my drivers or settings …

    Good luck - WOLF

    #75868
    Impie
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    There are indeed no gestures, besides the basic ones like scrolling. However, the accuracy is much improved for me and cursor acceleration got enabled (which is the biggest bonus, imo).

    #75878
    Wolf
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    yes,

    but I had the improvements and the gestures before the creators update hit my system and unfortunatelly I do not know what drivers I had tried before, only that I had tried several before I reached the final level of accuracy.

    Good luck - WOLF

    #76129
    Dennis
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    Hey hey, two days ago my second Jumper 3 Pro (I think V4) arrived. Now I startet it for the first time and the first, while Setting it up I recognized was that the touchpad works as fine as I wished for the first one. It works like on all other Laptops….

    How could that be possible? Does anyone else have a real new one and can confirm this?

    And where can I see which Touchpad and Driver are exactly in it?

    #76131
    Wolf
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    On 22nd of december I got my third Version of the EzBook 3 Pro over the last six month and I also recogniced the touchpad improvement in the first moment of use. A difference like day and night.

    It is simply a different touchpad , maybe from a different supplier than that before.
    You can differentiate these 2 kind of touchpad by its haptic – the rougher one is the newer and better one, where I have no touchpad complaints any more.

    But the eMMCs of mines had gotten worser from time to time unfortunatelly missing the good badge of the so called Version 4S, where S stands for Samsung or Sandisk eMMC.

    There is a huge difference between the models regarding touchpad usability cause the worst like a nightmare touchpad Version from the summer had the fastest eMMC regarding booting.That`s where I could easily identify the difference between these modells cause it felt like ages where passing by when the oldest one had already reached windows 10 desktop level.

    You may are asking which touchpad is built in not which driver, cause first you need the hardware and then the (right) drivers.
    Have a look in the device manager if you are lucky to identiy a brandname of that modell beyond the standard hid interface.

    But the typical JUMPER problem is the lottery they are willing to play regarding the components they use and the speed of change.
    I had hoped to get one of these 4S modells with a emmc from Samsung/andisk but had no luck for the second time. Therefore I am a bit pissed of by the JUMPER manufacturing or part purchase philosophy or better called lottery cause they may change parts from day to day depending on cheapest street price regardless if these components are meeting a standard the customer can expect or not. They would even change parts if that would ruine their reputation – that`s how it feels after 3 purchases every 2nd month.

    The product itself is in its best “component composition” quite good but what you will get if you had paid one is unknown until arrival and first boot.
    Even the OS has changed or at least configuration procedures cause the latest one had already an administrator account ready to run.
    Before I had seen different installation prodcedures. And a big difference seems to be that the previous ones were not able to update windows before you changed the service to start or run automatically. Hope that this modell would be able to reset Windows to default. My last ones died in a boot loop trying that procedure and I had to reinstall the complete OS from the media creation tool created stick.

    Anyway … time for something different:

    Mery Chrismas

    Good luck - WOLF

    #76132
    Dennis
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    Thank you for the fast and long answer!

    Poorly there is nothing in hardware manager .. where I can see any difference between the touchpads.

    Also the feeling/structure of both Jumpers Touchpads are the same. Here I can´t feel any difference.

    But I also fear, that  the new one (my gfs one….) has a much better touchpad (hardware) than mine…

    #87164
    Dr.Fix
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    My rubber V6 touchpad is already good as it is.

    I’ve just changed a couple of windows settings:

    – reduced sensitivity from high to medium

    – disabled pinch to zoom

     

    I couldn’t find a way to increase inertia/momentum of the scroll: I’ve tried the synaptic driver (the package cointains different variants Ps2, smbus touchpad, smbus forcepad, tried them all), but after reboot windows always put a red X on the device as not working and reverted to the default one)

     

    #141237
    Chupa
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    there are over 8 different touch pads on the different Jumpers, the 3 pro has alone 4 different models, so when you get your jumper make a driver dump and a build in hardware info sheet because when you do a reinstall or  win makes a major update you sure will run into a snag and will be glad you know what is build in and what driver works.

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    #145186
    Peter
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    Hi folks, I am new here. Having an Ezbook 3 Pro V4 since couple of days, bougth from ebay. Overall a nice machine. It seems to have a “precision” touchpad, however I did expect it to be better. The touchpad has some tiny lag when two finger scrolling or 3 finger gestures. Also the scroll is choppy in Chrome browser and not as pixel-smooth and instant as on my Acer Chromebook 15. I didn’t change any drivers yet. Touchpad is Windows HID. Probably there is some better driver (didn’t see that from the thread). Or might as well be a general Windows issue? Edge browser scrolls a tad better, but still lags compared to Chromebook.

     

    #145188
    Wolf
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    Hi,

    first of all you should look through the forum pages here cause who knows still about previous versions and what he had done to optimize things.

    Don’t compare these chinese tech with established brands – you did not pay the brand price of a chrome book.

    If you have lower expectations you’ll might be surprised, but with a view at ms surface level this must be a crap.

    Read all these pages carefully, make notes and backups cause no one might help you in case of trouble cause a lot of us have sold this one for a thinker or X4.

    If you don’t care for yourself you may have a ton of crap after next windows update cause you may not know the drivers that were used in your particular system.

    Read the last comment above yours and then you know what to do first – instead comparing this touchpad with a chromebook one. That is a luxury problem if you don’t start getting a driver backup.

    Do you know what V4 means and how to differentiate that from V3 or later V5?

    Who had told you that it is a V4?

    Do you mean the V4 in our way of definition?

    As you see things are far more complex and if you don’t prepare yourself for worst case no one ever can help you except you learn chinese and call jumper.

    If you get an update everything can end at that point when system crashes and you do not have a driver list / set.

    Good luck - WOLF

    #145196
    Peter
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    It is V4 that has the small door on its backside for SSD, the sand-paper like precision touchpad, unlocked ROM (I have set it to TDP disabled) and the poor eMMC (couldn’t figure the brand) that doesn’t support the 400 Mhz Bios performance tweak.

    Meanwhile I’ve tested to enable Chrome flags smooth scrolling option. But that freezes the scroll when multiple tabs are opened. And doesn’t affect the touchpad scrolling. Seemingly it does affect keyboard, mousewheel or scrollbar scrolling only, but not the touchpad. If you disable smooth scrolling completely it helps bit to get the scrolling a tad more responsive.
    I’ve also installed Chrome Canary which is deemed to have better support for precision touchpad under Windows, but 2 finger scrolling is pretty much the same as in stable Chrome. If you scroll fast, it is choppy and not pixel smooth as in Edge browser. In Edge however, scrolling speed is quite limited and doesn’t really follow your finger speed.

    Another thing I’ve tried was disabling 2 finger zoom in the precision touchpad options. Interestingly this helps in reposniveness! Nevertheless it remains choppy in Chrome and slow in Edge.

    My impression is that this is Windows related problem and not touchpad related. The CPU/GPU performance might play a role too. Unfortunately I don’t have any other Windows laptop to compare it to, but it is definitely worse than on my Chromebook or Macbook (both are pretty identical in this regard).

    I am now considering installing Linux if this might help the touchpad responsiveness and scrolling.

    #145213
    Peter
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    I investigated the scrolling issue with Task Manager and figured the scrolling in Chrome easily eats up 100% CPU load, just for scrolling at simple pages such as Facebook or spiegel.de. Edge browser scrolling as well exhaust the CPU. So I can conclude that the scrolling choppyness is due to limited CPU power. Or bad implementation in Windows.

    #145227
    Chupa
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    When you load content heavy pages your cpu spikes to 100%
    When you scroll down some elements get loaded to anticipate your scrolling length -your cpu spikes to 100%
    When you scroll back up most elements are still in the cache – your cpu does not need full power (pic1)

    When you load the usual social and MSM crap your browser also gets flooded and connected to a lot of domains and the usual spy crap (pic2 and 3) – your cpu spikes to 100%

    When you have other shit in the background running that also eats up lots of resources.
    Read through my help section below and you will be a bit smarter.

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    #145425
    Peter
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    Thanks Chupa, very helpful!

    I checked the Intel drivers (Intel Driver and Support Tool) and updated the Graphics driver.

    #145498
    Chupa
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    glad I could help you

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