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Forgive the dual post.
This is mainly tageted at core M based users/devices (since there are so many dual boot atom Android/Win10)
My Device: Cube i7 Book
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Android x86 6.0 RC-2 has been released. http://www.android-x86.org/releases/releasenote-6-0-rc2
This is only a release candidate – But for ‘out of the box’ it works pretty good.
This is the first Android x86 I have been able to get work on an x86 device in a LONG time
Booting LIVE from SD!
Unfortunately there is no ‘persistence’ when using a live boot.
This maybe because I made the Android boot disk from Windows – hence FAT32.
I read Android x86 may (still) have a problem writing changes if installed on a FAT32 partition.
THEREFORE: Perhaps if someone tries to make a ext3/ext4 boot disk from linux there may be ‘persistence’.
Working:
Wifi (2.4 & 5Ghz) & Bluetooth.
Touchscreen. USB. volume keys, Windows Button = Android home
Power saving. Sleeps fine. In fact I seem to have less power drain with this than I do with Windows
Sound & Video : OK could be louder. Youtube playback was fine albeit max quality was 720p (although the resolution of Android 1920×1080 in the settings)
Needs work:
Rotation control: Rotation Control is 180 degrees OUT – so you can lock it in portait or landscape using stock settings. I prefer “Rotation Control” from the app store.
No Camera: I only tested one app. I can’t remember if on hardware analysis if the sensors showed up or not.
Graphics? – There is a doccumented occasisonal bug for skylake GPUs – BUT I only saw it once. when
on power button – only good for bringing up Power Off but this could be tweaked.
Utilities show 4 cores running between 1.9 & 2.2 GHz… This is obviously the kernel being confused or something.
After all the Core M 6y30 is a Dual Core – Albeit supporting hyperthreading – so more like a quad core.
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Install Fail
Unfortunately my install hangs at the Android logo and I can’t work what is going on.
I’ve never had success installing Android to a hard disk – except maybe one Acer laptop – which I seem to recall there was some decent support for
The Android x86 7.0 Source code has been released which should be very interesting with Multi-window support. This raises a question about how projects like Remix-OS will go competing with Android 7.0
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Is it worth downloading the source code and manually building Android?
Topic: Android x86
Android x86 6.0 RC-2 has been released. http://www.android-x86.org/releases/releasenote-6-0-rc2
This is only a release candidate – But for ‘out of the box’ it works pretty good.
This is the first Android x86 I have been able to get work on an x86 device in a LONG time
Booting LIVE from SD!
Unfortunately there is no ‘persistence’ when using a live boot.
This maybe because I made the Android boot disk from Windows – hence FAT32.
I read Android x86 may (still) have a problem writing changes if installed on a FAT32 partition.
THEREFORE: Perhaps if someone tries to make a ext3/ext4 boot disk from linux there may be ‘persistence’.
Working:
Wifi (2.4 & 5Ghz) & Bluetooth.
Touchscreen. USB. volume keys, Windows Button = Android home
Power saving. Sleeps fine. In fact I seem to have less power drain with this than I do with Windows
Sound & Video : OK could be louder. Youtube playback was fine albeit max quality was 720p (although the resolution of Android 1920×1080 in the settings)
Needs work:
Rotation control: Rotation Control is 180 degrees OUT – so you can lock it in portait or landscape using stock settings. I prefer “Rotation Control” from the app store.
No Camera: I only tested one app. I can’t remember if on hardware analysis if the sensors showed up or not.
Graphics? – There is a doccumented occasisonal bug for skylake GPUs – BUT I only saw it once. when
on power button – only good for bringing up Power Off but this could be tweaked.
Utilities show 4 cores running between 1.9 & 2.2 GHz… This is obviously the kernel being confused or something.
After all the Core M 6y30 is a Dual Core – Albeit supporting hyperthreading – so more like a quad core.
*******
Install Fail
Unfortunately my install hangs at the Android logo and I can’t work what is going on.
I’ve never had success installing Android to a hard disk – except maybe one Acer laptop – which I seem to recall there was some decent support for
The Android x86 7.0 Source code has been released which should be very interesting with Multi-window support. This raises a question about how projects like Remix-OS will go competing with Android 7.0
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Sorry about the double post
Is it worth downloading the source code and manually building Android?
Yes I SHOULD have taken a disk image when I first got the tablet.
Cube image file is hosted on Baidu. Now I don’t understand Chinese so I’m going to have a heck of a time registering and trying to get an image.
http://www.cube-tablet.com/download/
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I made the mistake of signing up to Windows Insider Previews. Now this broke a lot of the OS. Tablet Rotation, Brightness Controls. Most of my settings. The ability to ‘Roll back’ and recover my install.
If I can advise you – Don’t do it. Stick to normal updates.
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At any rate I got a windows 10 image on SD and installed.
That went okay.
Except NONE of the drivers installed.
No touchscreen, Wifi/bluetooth, touch screen drivers.
Input is only possibly via USB. Thankfully I have access to a wireless dongle.
SD card also works.
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Does anyone know how to inject the driver package into a Windows 10 iso.
I’m trying to nut this out.
The driver package that is posted on TechTablets is unsigned so I can’t install this in Windows.
Arhhhhh
At least Ubuntu 14.04 works out of the box. Touch/Wifi/BT/graphics.
Topic: The Tablet I Want
Just Saying
MUST
Which I Care Most- OS
Dual-boot native Android and Windows
NO REMIXOS BULLSHIT - CPU, Memory And Storage
Anything which supports both Anroid and Windows
At least 4GB Memory
At least 64GB Storage - Display
8-inch
IPS
Tempered Glass
At least FHD Resolution
At least 300 cd/m2 Brightness
Dim enough at lowest brightness setting - Data and charge
TWO USB PORT WITH DATA CONNECTIVITY
NO MICRO-B (Android 5pin)
Dual Type-C or Type-C + Type-A(Fullsize USB)
One of them should be dedicated charge port - Sensors
Accelerometer - Data Connection
Blutooth
Wifi - SD-Card
UHS-I fast speed
up to 256gb compatibility - Audio
A stereo 3.5mm port
Speaker
Optional
I’ll happily use these if it’s possible but it’ not necessary- GPS
- 3G or 4G
- Dual band Wifi
- Keyboard Connection
- Active Stylus
- Stereo Speaker
WHAT I DONT CARE
I can easily give up these for any reason to improve another part of the tablet.- Display output
- Camera, both front and back
- Thickness
I DONT CARE ABOUT THINKNESS AT ALL. JUST PUT MORE BATTERY.
7MM THICKNESS VS 14MM THICKNESS WITH DOUBLE SIZED BATTERY?
I’LL ALWAYS CHOOSE LATTER.
Hi, I am a photographer and graphic designer and am in need of a new Android tablet and new Windows laptop, as both of mine are now ancient and slow, so I am hoping to kill two birds with one stone by getting a dual-boot Android/Windows tablet, as I don’t want to travel with three devices (need my iPad for certain apps). Here’s what I need:
- Main use will be Android, with Windows being used when travelling and occasionally when needing a stylus in the office
- Android use will be for two tethered shooting (tablet controls camera) apps and a USB port is required for one (other app uses WiFi)
- Windows needs to run Photoshop CS6, Illustrator CS6, and Bridge CS6. Obviously, it won’t be my main device for editing/creating – that is my powerful desktop and high-end monitor made for photography/design – but when I travel, I am away for up to a month, so I need something to do some work on
- Stylus with pressure sensitivity is required
- Keyboard that doubles as a cover is highly preferable; keyboard needs to attach/double as a stand for the tablet (no separate Bluetooth keyboard and stand for tablet)
- External hard drive hookup capabilities is required
- Screen needs to be capable of being bright enough to seen outside in sunlight and dim down a lot in darkness
- Additional USB ports preferred (on keyboard is okay)
- Screen size should be no smaller than 10 inches
Things that do NOT matter:
- Built-in front/rear cameras (I won’t be using them)
- Capabilities for playing games (I don’t play any)
- Sound quality (I listen to music from my Android phone)
I’m in the USA. Thanks!
I know Chris has elected (at least for now) not to review the Hi 8 Pro. As an owner of a Hi12 I’ve been very happy with my Chuwi experience to date but I realized that while it might sound silly to some, there were times I wanted a small tablet for things like reading in bed, watching movies or tv shows at the gym (treadmill / exercise bike type stuff). I use the Hi12 mainly for text books and reference materials here the aspect ratio of the screen is ideal but realized that it was excellent for a few things but overkill and not the best design for things like movies on the go. I never considered previous 8″ tablets because of the lower rez (1280×800) as I am one of those folks who seems very sensitive to lower dpi screens. I had avoided the Hi8 Pro initially due to the concerns a lot of folks were having initially but in following numerous threads and forums it seemed like they finally got the hardware figured out at and were shipping units without issues (hardware issues at least). Still being someone concerned I paid a premium and bought domestically off Amazon so I would have access to a much better amazon A-Z Guarantee rather then dealing with a chinese based seller. No benchmarks because I honestly think they are worthless, instead my review is based on actual hands on use as compared to other tablets I own/use etc.
Build Quality – I was actually surprised. I was not expecting construction to be at the same level as my Hi12, clearly it was plastic vs metal, etc. That being said I was actually impressed. The plastic is a nice matte finish with an inlay of some sort, an etching that gives it just a little bit of texture and a pattern you can see when the light hit’s it right. I prefer this over a high gloss finish and I think it elevates the look as much as can be done with plastic. The metal band around the perimeter is a nice touch, it’s hard to say if it does much from a structural stand point or if it’s purely an aesthetic flourish but it certainly does look nice. Screen is not laminated so you do have a gap but its nothing anyone who’s used a similarly priced tablet is going to be upset by.
USB Type C is nice, actual implementation seems rather limited. I probably need to play with this more in Windows 10 as opposed to Android to get a good feel for it but this definitely does not seem like a full blown USB Type C implementation and really almost feels like they simply used a Type C Jack but it’s still a USB 2.0 controller (speeds, device support, etc.). There’s no video out from the Type C, etc. I was surprised to see Type C on a Cherry Trail device and I welcome it (so much easier to plug in with the lights off!) for convenience but I think Chuwi could be clearer about the limitations with their design.
Headphone Jack – From whatI understand I have the latest version that has “all the fixes” but the headphone jack is still really questionable. If you have a three pole headset (i.e. what comes with your phones, that has Mic as well as stereo left and right) the tablet appears to not fully support them. If plugged in all the way you get the stereo separation issues but if you pull it out JUST the right amount everything works fine. In my experience this is typically a sign that the jack itself is not setup to properly receive and work with any headphones that have three poles as opposed to two (look at the jack, if you see three 3 black rings instead of just two thats an easy way to verify). That being said once it’s sitting just right (or if you use a regular pair of headphones WITHOUT a mic line) the audio is clean, and what I would consider static free. Yes, if it’s dead silent you can hear some background static but it’s not the horror story of constant static or anytime you move the cord you get a bunch of static. Long story short, in my experience, if you use the right kind of headphones it works just fine, I just don’t understand why so many of these low end tablets use jacks that only take 2 pole, it’s 2016!
Bluetooth/Wi-Fi – No issues with either for routine daily use. My gym has wifi and so I regularly use WiFi to stream netflix while listening to the show via bluetooth headphones . This isn’t the MOST demanding test so I do suspect that if you really pushed the traffic on the antenna i.e. bluetooth mouse and keyboard while using the wifi chip you would see the typical sign of shared antenna design such as mouse sutter and wifi latency. But for watching a video and listening to it via bluetooth it kept up ok. It’s still only 2.4ghz but at the price point it’s relative. I did not run into any issues with dropped signals, failure to connect, etc.
Screen – Gorgeous. It’s basically a poor mans nVidia shield tablet. There is some IPS glow but thats just IPS. My tablet came with a screen protector pre-installed which I assume is normal. Unfortunately it is of the plastic variety which I will replace if I ultimately decide to keep the tablet.
Performance – Definitely a bit snapper then my Hi12 and I suspect that comes down to the resolution being a lot lower. The Hi12 doesn’t run terribly but you certainly can feel it trying to “keep up”. I was initially concerned that going down from 4gigs of ram would possibly make performance worse but for single task it gets along okay. Windows you should just throw multi-tasking out the window. the 2gigs of ram really result in extended hang ups when multi-tasking that you don’t see on a similar tablet with 4gigs such as Hi12. Android on the other hand runs just great and actually feels snappier then my Hi12 which I suspect comes down to the resolution. I don’t play games on my tablets, just read pdf’s, watch netflix, and browse the web and in those instances the performance felt just great. I actually found my Hi8 Pro to be snappier then my nexus 9 especially when moving AROUND, i.e. a nexus 9 can be fast once your doing one thing, but start switching apps and the thing just grinds to a halt (a common complaint with that tablet).
The Deal Breaker – Right now I am at a complete cross road with the tablet 100% because of the software implementation. They really kind of screwed the pooch in my opinion in how they setup the dual boot system. Windows 10 takes up too much space and can’t be updated anymore as the anniversary update requires more free space then will ever be available. This means you are going to be “stuck” in time with Windows which is not a good thing from a security stand point (in my opinion) which when combined with the 2gb of RAM for me at least makes the Win10 partition really useless. It’s slower, takes up excessive space, and now can’t even update itself anymore. Android on the other hand is completely gimped with only 4gigs of free space and because of it being on Lollipop adding an SD card does little to help the matter. Apps like Amazon Video can’t save to the SD card, etc. With little hope that Chuwi will update this to Marshmallow your basically stuck with 4gigs of actual useable space under Android which for me is borderline a deal breaker especially considering 20+gigs is completely going to waste on a Windows 10 installation that also is going to be stuck in time! If Chuwi sold this device still as a Android tablet thats the version I would buy in a heart beat because its a fantastic android tablet. As a dual boot device though it tries to be too many things with its limited resources and fails to do any of them well.
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