Tbook 8XS Pro – 15.6″ GeForce 920M 2GB + J3455 Laptop

Tbook 8XS Pro – 15.6″ GeForce 920M 2GB + J3455 Laptop

Update: I will be reviewing this one, but it’s a good 3 weeks off on the slow boat. So please stop asking 🙂

This one certainly looks interesting from T-Bao, an Apollo Lake J3455 15.6″ 1080p laptop with dedicated Nvidia 920M graphics. So this will be much more powerful than the Intel iGPU on the Apollo Lakes I have typically reviewed and should be able to run for example GTA V at 40-50 fps on low at 1024 x 768.

The display has a slim bezel and we also have M.2 2280 SSD expansion, 6GB of DDR3 1600Mhz RAM and 128GB of eMMC 5 storage. The laptop also sports wireless AC and has an ethernet port. It even has Type-C.

The Apollo Lake Celeron J3455 is also slightly faster than the Celeron N3450 typically used in the other budget laptops like the EZBook 3 Pro.

The battery is listed as 9000mAh and considering the price and spec could this be the new Apollo Lake budget laptop king? Any interest in a review of this one? It’s currently $299 at Geekbuying.com

Thanks to Inhalt for the tip!

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53 Comments

  1. Man disappointing Chris not reviewing this. it has 920m which is 20-30% faster then intel 615 of core m3 also the j3455 10watt version of n3450 which surely will provide at least 15% more performance over long run.

    This is in my short list because my laptop msi gx640 with gtx 860m screen is not working without tv and i want to have something very cheap and portable with big battery life, and if it can play fifa 18 and pes 2018 even in lowest settings its perfect.

    My current option is this one which has 920m and j3455 and probably 5hrs battery or wait for jumper gemini lake with higher cpu performance also 7/8hrs battery and light and smaller by 400g.

    @gabest,

    i wanna know more about the screen, is it ips, how is viewing angles and brightness, is it at least 250nits.

    Also what about battery life, j3455 and 920m surely eats more then plain n3450, if the jumper laptop gives 7-8 hours, how much this one give you when browsing and video watching and high brightness. is it over 5hrs?

    Also how is overall speed and the hardisk emmc speed, in pictures it shows 400mb/s, thats an ssd speed, is it ssd or emmc, also do you feel any lag when opening apps, browsing with 15 tabs etc.

    Also does the type C charge the laptop as well and how longs does it take to fully charge this.

    Sorry for many questions and thank you.

    • I am, bought one and it’s on the way. Will be here in a few weeks I hope.

  2. Got it today. DHL shipping price doubled after they also charged for doing the customs.

    The machine looks nice, metal covers, thin plastic between, held together with 9 little screws. Only the touch pad buttons are hard to press. It’s one of those all-in-one clickable in the corner type. Keyboard is not back-lit, a little difficult to see the red printing, there is no extra key for non-English layouts, needs altgr. Got an Australian power chord for a European address (standard mickey mouse connection to the supply).

    CPU is the advertised J3455.

    Both GPUs are enabled at the same time, which I didn’t know it was possible. The Geforce 920M is only used in applications like games (also Cinebench).

    I have yet to look inside the machine, but the storage looks to be a very common KingSpec 128GB mSATA SSD (NT-128 in Device manager). I already have several of these, they are all called NT-64/128/256. Comes with the new multi-layer Micron flash chip.

    Wifi is Intel 3165. 100Mbps on 5GHz and 85Mbps on 2.4GHz. Same room, about 4 meters from the router.

    Comes with Windows pre-installed, if you want to reinstall, the key is on a sticker at the bottom.

    Cinebench R15: MC 148-154, SC 40-42, OpenGL 21.11 fps
    7-zip: MC 5400/7700, SC 1400/2000 MIPS

    • *cord, I always spell it with h for some reason.

    • My bad, there is no metal in the housing, it was just very cold when I took it out of the box.

      Changing the OS type in the bios to Linux bricked it (wanted to boot Clonezilla to make a backup), only disconnecting the battery could resurrect it. (broke some plastic hooks in the process and there were two more hidden screws under the rubber legs :P)

      A few pictures of the motherboard: https://imgur.com/a/Bajjp

      • I just buy it almost. But find you comment before clicking “Pay now” button. Now I’ll be wait for others comments about boot in linux. Can you answer that:
        – Did you try to boot linux second time? =) Maybe turning off “secure boot” option will help. Or choosing internal graphic only(if possible).
        – How silent are two coolers?
        – How are yours feelings with touchpad. Does it scroll smoothly? Does it have all necessary settings in Windows Control Panel like gestures, natural scrolling, etc?

        • It bricks itself 100% after setting it to “Intel Linux”. There are other options too, Android, MS-DOS, Win7. I will try normal linux distros and turning off those trusted/secure things later, which I have absolutely no idea about. It is a just a PITA to take the case apart to reset the BIOS, tabs break very easy, fortunately all those screws can hold it together.

          About the fans. I have just reinstalled Windows 10 (do not trust the Chinese :). One of the fans had been running at full speed for half an hour until Windows Update finally found the Nvidia driver and the machine rebooted. That was very loud. Now under CPU-Z stress test (cores at 73 Celsius after 10 min) it is moderately silent, turns off when idle. I have yet to test the GPU fan.

          Touch pad has no wheel area, or I could not find it yet. Corner buttons are very hard and impossible to press without moving the cursor. The default sensitivity setting of Windows (the only setting!) is not enough to reliably register left click taps, but this one can be changed and it works okay after that. Windows sees it as a generic “PS/2 Port Compatible Pointing Device”, I have no idea if there is better driver, can’t even find t-bao’s web site to look for drivers.

          • IMHO touchpad should support two-fingers scrolling. And no neccessary to click tachpad’s button, just tap for left-click and two-finger tab for right- click.
            But It’s look like emulated mouse and it is not good news for me =( In this case two-finger scrolling will be terrible, like the scrolling with mouse wheel, not smooth. I have same touchad on my Chuwi Lapbook 14.1 and it is main reason why I want to buy new laptop.
            Look for VID&PID of the touchpad in Device Manager. It can help to find driver for it. If it is exists, course….

          • Are you sure the trackpad is that bad or was it maybe because you re installed windows? Have you tried the driver booster software?

      • Are you saying there is no metal on the outside of the laptop?

        • All plastic, there is a metal plate under the keyboard.

          • also is the precision touch pad or normal one. did u find a solution to ur driver problem with touchpad.

    • Thanks for the first user feedback on this machine. I’ve held off from buying it but I like that it is a J3455 and I can see sperate cooling on the GPU and CPU. Can you please upload some more photos, the screen is it an IPS or TN? And the keyboard and lid, ports etc too in photos if possible thank you.

  3. First of, this is quite an interesting take. I didn’t really mind the “V” on the touchpad, and that silver outside and dark gray inside looks pretty good. The red stickered keyboard looks cheap, it should be backlit (ok, not a budget feature) [or maybe transparent black with red letters (that’s just my idea)] or the classic black+white letters type. BUT THE DESIGN IS GOOD (in my opinion). IT SOMEHOW FITS THE GAMING SCENE. IT JUST NEEDS POLISHING.

    That extra graphics card is a weird idea. It can be done well, but just make it effective, battery efficient and non-bottlenecked. And also, there is also the free TDP tweak for graphics on Apollo lakes.

    The bezels look great on the pictures. I would love to see something like those (or even thinner).

    The processor should be a Gemini Lake, or better in 2018. I would also love to see the Pentium variations (if the TDP thing doesn’t happen again when N3450 (Celeron) > N4200 (Pentium)). It’s more expensive, but I will mention ways down how they could save cost:

    – Give only 4GB of RAM in the box, but let us
    put an 8GB DDR4 (2400 MHz or the maximum
    possible). RAM SHOULD BE UPGRADEABLE
    – Also, let us put an SSD into the laptop. If that
    works, we don’t really need built-in storage.

    Things, that they absolutely need to include:

    – Unlocked BIOS
    – At least 1080p IPS screen (have a variety of
    STILL USABLE screen sizes)
    – USABLE KEYBOARD AND PRECISION
    TOUCHPAD
    – A FULL FLEDGED TYPE C CONNECTOR
    (CHARGING (also via power bank), DATA, VIDEO AND EVERYTHING
    ELSE)
    – At least 2 FULL SIZED USB 3.0 PORTS
    – HDMI / DISPLAYPORT OUTPUT
    – 3.5mm headphone jack
    – GOOD BUILD QUALITY (full aluminium)
    – Have a built-in SD reader
    – HAVE A BIG BATTERY
    – HAVE A FULL-SIZED SSD AND AT LEAST ONE
    RAM SLOT
    – Linux support
    – GOOD WIFI
    – Make the laptop a GOOD THIN&LIGHT

    Things that they should also include:

    – Battery indicator on the side (DELL XPS style,
    not necessary)
    – Have an user-acessable PCIe port for
    connecting things (example: external video card
    docks)
    – Have a dedicated graphics card, but only if
    budget lets it and the integrated one can’t
    outperform it
    – Have fans in even fanless designs, but let
    them be silent and user-controllable, and only
    turn on automatically, when temperatures hit
    thermal throttling, BUT HAVE PERFECT PASSIVE
    COOLING
    – Have a backlit keyboard, but only if it fits in
    the budget

    Your videos are great, Chris! Keep up the good work!

    • You do realize that the only reason they are cheap is because they omit half those things? 😀
      Plus you want things that don’t work together. You can’t have a light thin machine with a huge battery for instance.

      I look at it like this – say if it had a Type C port – then they could omit the full size ports because you can attach the dock and get those. This would help towards making the design thinner and more power efficient (this is where the long battery life really comes from in reality). I would be happy to have that compromise.
      One has to think about what features can be left out in order to make it both a slim design, keep power consumption down and also make it affordable. This is what designers go to work every day to do.

  4. First of, this is quite an interesting take. I didn’t really mind the “V” on the touchpad, and that silver outside and dark gray inside looks pretty good. The red stickered keyboard looks cheap, it should be backlit (ok, not a budget feature) [or maybe transparent black with red letters (that’s just my idea)] or the classic black+white letters type. BUT THE DESIGN IS GOOD (in my opinion). IT SOMEHOW FITS THE GAMING SCENE. IT JUST NEEDS POLISHING.

    That extra graphics card is a weird idea. It can be done well, but just make it effective, battery efficient and non-bottlenecked. And also, there is also the free TDP tweak for graphics on Apollo lakes.

    The bezels look great on the pictures. I would love to see something like those (or even thinner).

    The processor should be a Gemini Lake, or better in 2018. I would also love to see the Pentium variations (if the TDP thing doesn’t happen again when N3450 (Celeron) > N4200 (Pentium)). It’s more expensive, but I will mention ways down how they could save cost:

    – Give only 4GB of RAM in the box, but let us
    put an 8GB DDR4 (2400 MHz or the maximum
    possible).
    – Also, let us put an SSD into the laptop. If that
    works, we don’t really need built-in storage.

    Things, that they absolutely need to include:

    – Unlocked BIOS
    – At least 1080p GOOD screen (have a variety of
    STILL USABLE screen sizes)
    – USABLE KEYBOARD AND PRECISION
    TOUCHPAD
    – A FULL FLEDGED TYPE C CONNECTOR
    (CHARGING, DATA, VIDEO AND EVERYTHING ELSE

  5. Hello. I have purchased the T-bao R8 laptop. Everything is working ok except for the microphone. It does not work. Windows can not detect a sound card. There are no unknown devices in device manager. Webcam and Speakers work ok. Can someone reply to my post and if there is some kind of fix for this issue. Thanks in advance. Chris

    • surely if speakers work then there must be a sound device of some kind? can you delete the device in Device Manager, reboot and see if when Windows re-configures the driver also causes a microphone device to manifest.

  6. I think you should hold off until the Gemini Lake models come out, we’re already seeing mini PCs with these in, so tablets and laptops are imminent.
    I’m also hoping Huawei will come along with a new Mediapad, if it’s without the compromises of previous versions, it might be pretty decent.

    • Feb/March we should see the new releases. I’ve decided to order one to check it out, curiosity, in the end, got the better of me. Still sometime before I’m looking at the Celeron N4100 and Pentium N5000 Gemini Lake tablets, notebooks and mini pcs.

  7. This machine is pretty stupid in terms of hardware. But is quite strong in price/power.

    GT920 is roughly equivalent to Intel UHD620, which is integrated into core i line of CPUs. Processor wise – even more stupid. This is quad core Celeron with 2.3 GHz which will plain lag in most scenarios, but good for gaming, etc.
    Display looks promising.

    They have charge port and type c = stupid. 6gb ram 1600 = mid level. M.2 is nice, but too bad it’s not NVMe, but it’s processor related.

    However, price is very decent. My regret is they didn’t go with 150MX GPU, at least as a choice. That would have been a killer.

    • Ignoring the GPU, the Celeron J3455 looks slightly more powerful than the Celeron N3450 but it is a TDP 10 watt CPU versus the N3450 6w TDP so that is to be expected. I wonder how the battery life will perform though compared to the Jumper EZbook 3 Pro and other N3450 notebooks? We will see.

      • I think the battery life should be similar but with that 920M if it’s not switchable GFX it will drain the battery and we would surely lose a few hours due to this.

    • MX150 would have been overkill for a J3455 and be CPU bottleneck for sure. The spec is okay considering it’s price on release it’s only going to lower. So once around the $270 mark would be a nice alternative for those looking for a dedicated GPU with 2GB of vRAM. It will certainly push older games nicely Vs the Intel 500 HD.

      • Don’t know about bottlenecking… But the GPU choice is anyway strange – there are MX150 sublings, like MX130? something like that and not so “2 year old”
        Plus the GPU itself is strange that it is a dedicated chip with the pixel-pushing on HD620 level with some vram.
        Was there really no higher tier CPU, that costs like this CPU+this GPU combined?

        But otherwise I like this laptop, it seems like a decent made item to somebody who does simple things on laptop, like mail typing and watching videos.

        • Because it’s an old part it would have been cheap for them to bulk buy the 920M Dies. The MX150 is the lowest you can get, next up would be the 1050. The MX150 is really an Nvidia 1030. And as for the J3455 they could have gone with maybe an older i5 but I guess cost and maybe battery life was the aim here. It’ is a strange combination for sure.

  8. The description is a bit fuzzy, it was probably copypasted from the non-Pro version in a hurry. On Aliexpress (and other Chinese sites I can find) it is only listed with 64GB eMMC. The font for “128” is a bit different at one place. Hmmm. Also, yesterday the CPU was a mix of N3450 and J3455. I sent them an inquiry about this at the bottom of the page and they corrected it almost immediately, the editing is clearly visible, the white background is blurry behind all those J3455s on the pre-rendered images. This all happened after I ordered it. I just hope everything turns out to be the better version.

    • So really we can assume its the J3455 but could also be the N3450? Wouldn’t be the first time the specs aren’t correct. Let us know who you get on with it, still have yet to order mine. Not 100% sure, the shipping for $30 puts me off.

      • same here, Chris. Also their shippig choice for Spain are only carriers where around 30% tax etc is added or for over 30 Euro by train in 30 working days (read 2 months). I inquired about this but they bouced me to a different department. I think it is the ususal ebay trick that parts of the price is in the overinflated shipping included.

  9. at least it looks promising and different compared to the 2017 EZBOOK 3 Pro test year .

    I like the size of the screen an bezzeless display.
    The system looks clean and I like it compare to the the aloy coloured bodies.
    But I hope it will be a metal build with a good built quality.

    Just a first impression that I got a feeling that I would instantly love to buy that.
    May be fresh and promising – hope to hear something … But I would wait to hear what you have to say in a review.

    • The 920M + 2GB DDR3 RAM should give a nice boost to older games like Counter-Strike and LoL etc games that are lightweight. So it might be a decent machine, I just hope it’s built good and the keyboard isn’t bad like the other Tbook I looked at.

  10. Is that trackpad for real?

    Is the red V supposed to put one in mind of the “V” tv series on lizard aliens?

    The whole red-black color scheme is weirdly satanic. Just no.

    • Weirdly satanic, haha it is. Why must all gaming laptops almost be red and black? I have a Lenovo 1050 Ti laptop and it’s red + black, but at least it doesn’t have a huge red V on the trackpad!

  11. Chris pls review this one, find out if it’s decent or it’s bad. I don’t like the red accents, and maybe the dual fans are very loud. But if it’s good for Photoshop with a 2GB GPU and the J3455 is a little faster maybe it’s good once the price drops. Will pick it up on flash sale for $250 😀

    • I’ll see the interest it has, the $30 shipping fee and then the taxes I’ll have to pay are putting me off on pulling the trigger on this one. There is a lot of new tech coming soon that I have to save up for! Fan noise is also a concern of mine too and battery life with a GPU. I wonder if it will have switchable graphics? I highly doubt it.

      • If reviewing this one means not reviewing something else in the near future, I’d be inclined to let this one go.
        It’s definitely interesting with the J-series Apollo Lake and dGPU (what in tarnation is that colour scheme/design though), but with Gemini Lake just around the corner I’d much rather we got some reviews of the hardware that’s coming up.

        Side note: Do you think any of the Chinese brands will be releasing something with Ryzen when it launches? Assuming the price is low enough, and it should be, I’d be really interested in seeing what they’d release based on the Ryzen 3 2200/2300U.

        • I’m still undecided on this one, but the Gemini lakes will not be out until late Feb / march. Jumper told me they might have a new Gemini lake laptop ready late Feb and I imagine from then onwards we will see many others. I hope they do release Ryzen 3 2200 and 2300U laptops, it’s just wait and see what happens.

          Surbook Pro with N4100 (Gemini Lake) Is due I think in March with the CoreBook.

          Teclast & Cube and others will release Gemini Lake tech in Late Feb/March too. And I will try to review the new N4100 mini pcs. One move I’m not liking is the move back to 4GB of RAM, at least it’s DDR4 spec, but not the 6GB (2 x 3GB) Samsung DDR3 modules anymore.

          • Since you’re in touch with Jumper, how about “suggesting’ to them that the leave the bios unlocked? Or at least let us have the bios dump and give us an option to flash the unlocked version… At our own risk, of course.

      • For the price, specs look decent and the screen is the biggest draw. BUT the colour scheme and the big V on the touchpad, MEH! What were they thinking? The metal body is nice. However, based on the weight I don’t think it has a full metal body like the EzBook 3. It would have been a looker if they kept it minimalistic and went for Gunmetal Grey like the Mi Notebook Pro. Oh well… No complaints about the price though

        As tempting as it is to review one, I’d say skip this and go for the upcoming Gemini Lake laptops from Jumper. I reckon it’ll be money better spent.

        • Decided to order one in the end. Still a month or two before the new Gemini Lakes. I’m just asking in the Aliexpress store and they told me to wait until February for Gemini Lake. But I’ll mention the bios.

    • the dual fans might be the dual openings in the bottom, I do not believe that there is actually a fan, because there is no exhaust opening.

      • Maybe the exhaust opening is in between body and screen area at the hinge area like the Mi Notebook Pro?

        • I think it would be there too. As to have and in and out vent.

  12. Yeah, that looks like a lot of machine for the money if the build quality is decent. Hopefully the screen, keyboard, and touchpad is acceptable. Don’t forget to test Linux! … heh heh cheers, -Brad-

    • that slim bezel does look nice and prob helped keep the weight down. I’m not thrilled by that red V on the touchpad. Looks dumb IMO.

      • ah, and at least they put the pipe-backslash key in the right place. In the Jumper EZBook 3 Pro it’s nowhere near where it should be and that is a heavily used key for programmers and Linux users (the “|” pipe character)

        • The shape of the Enter and backslash/pipe key location is a ISO vs ANSI or EU vs USA thing. Here in the EU we are used to the other way.

        • Sorry, I thought it was the L shaped Enter on the EZBook, but apparently the Del key there.

      • Yes that touchpad red looks horrible!!! What were they thinking. It’s metal or all plastic build? Says metal, but it looks plastic.

        • black parts plastic, silver parts “metal” and how about no num lock? I see no numbers on the keyboard exept in the horizontal row. Will they provide red keyboard stickers too?

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