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Teclast X3 Plus Apollo Lake 2-in-1 Coming This Month

Teclast X3 Plus Apollo Lake 2-in-1 Coming This Month

It’s been a while since we had a new release from Teclast, the last one I reviewed was the X5 Pro, now the X3 Plus is on the way. An 11.6-inch tablet with 6GB’s of RAM (2 x 3GB RAM chips in dual channel), powered by a Celeron N3450 (Apollo Lake) CPU and it runs Windows 10 Home. It will be Teclast’s first Apollo Lake powered tablet.

It’s another 2-in-1 with optional keyboard type cover, runs with a 16:9  ratio1920 x 1080 IPS screen, 64GB of eMMC storage. It has two cameras, your typical 2MP front and 5MP rear facing ones from Teclast. The build looks similar to the Tbook 16S, all metal with a kick stand. The battery is 6800mAh and it looks to have only wireless N.

Interesting RAM amount of 6GB and not 8GB, so there must only be 3 x 2GB RAM chips soldered to the motherboard with one unfilled. Still better than 4GB of course. Edit: Teclast has confirmed this is 3GB x 2, in dual channel.

Source: Aliexpress Teclast’s 7th sale page.

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  1. Right now the X5 Pro is in flash sale at Gearbest (Email only) for 447€. What would you recommend. Waiting for the X3 Plus or the X5 Pro? Where are the big differences? Is the processor that much better in the X5 Pro, that the higher price is reasonable?

    Dave

  2. @Chris, I posted this also on your latest Chuwi Hi13 post page. For any devices you review that have a touchscreen, it might be useful for viewers to see a quick touchscreen test with Linux booted from a USB 3.0 drive as you did before, . The word on the street is that the Gnome desktop is the most touchscreen-friendly of the Linux desktop environments. So you can test this with the latest Manjaro 17.0 Gnome-Desktop distro ISO –> https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarolinux/files/release/17.0/gnome/manjaro-gnome-17.0-stable-x86_64.iso/download

    PS. I’m guessing that many, if not most of the Cherry-Trail Atom devices won’t work very well, but who knows. The newer kernels coming out seem to be slowly/finally fixing some things.

  3. I was on the fence with the X5 Pro but skipped it as there is still no where to get the keyboard, why is it taking so long to release the keyboard?

    • I saw the X5 Pro keyboard on Gearbest recently, here it is: https://goo.gl/EzgS9L

      • thank you, I placed the order but I assume its not in stock since it says ships Apr 2 – 8 for the keyboard. Oddly if I had both the X5 Pro and TL keyboard together it forced DHL expedited shipping so I ordered them separately to get regular registered air mail for bother. Luckily the intel03 discount code still works for the X5 Pro.

  4. I suspect it’ll be a 2G and a 4G module, which is probably worse that 3 x 2GB, because it might screw up the ability to run the memory in dual channel mode.

    • Teclast has confirmed it’s dual channel 3GB x 2, so that’s good to hear.

  5. Another 16:9 with 64 gb… I find the tablets with this aspect ratio, and with this limited storage capacity absolutely impractical for coding on the go, or for writing. I realize that they never wanted these things to be a coder-on-the-go best buddy, I guess that they choose the 16:9 aspect ratio for the video playback. But, how many movies can you stuff into that tiny 64 gb hard drive?

    I really wish it were a 3:2, with at least 128 gb, and the stylus support model…

    • At least we have the Chuwi Hi13 coming this month, 3:2 Surface Book screen, stylus support and it might have an M.2 SSD bay in it like the Lapbook 14.1

      • Gearbest canceled my Hi13 order today, so it seems like we won’t see this tablet for a little longer. 🙁

    • @asan, 64GB should be plenty to partition and install a dual boot Win10/Linux system. One option, for $25 you can add a 128GB drive that you always leave plugged in for storing your media and data files. These “smart fit” tiny thumb drives allow them to remain plugged in without risking damage to your USB port socket. I have a small one of only 8GB that I have run Linux distro Manjaro Xfce 17.0 on. They get fairly hot though so I dunno how long they last – check out the reviews.
      http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sandisk-ultra-fit-128gb-usb-3-0-type-a-flash-drive-black-silver/9208221.p?skuId=9208221

      • wow, just saw that it says normal price is $120. IF that is true then $25 is a smokin’ good deal.

        • The 32GB one is only $10. That is plenty big enough to run Manjaro on, so you don’t have to touch your Windows partition. FYI. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sandisk-ultra-fit-32gb-usb-3-0-flash-drive-black-silver/9089012.p?skuId=9089012

          • Thanks for the tip, Brad. I should’ve updated myself on the USB thumb drives, they’ve made a significant progress from those funny (and slow) 2-8 GBs storage units :).

          • I am really surprised, but pleasantly so, how fast Manjaro Xfce runs off of a good quality (fast) USB 3.0 drive. It pretty much feels like running on an HD. I would buy the fastest, most reliable, thumb drive you can get. I don’t know if those “smart fit” ones are comparatively good or not but I really like that format – where you can leave them plugged in without risking damage to your USB port since they do not stick-out at all. Hopefully they will followup with more of the same size/format.
            Another option, perhaps even better, obviously would be running it off of an SD card, if your devic’s BIOS allows this. My Lenovo G50 notebook does not support booting from SD card. Pretty lame/stupid if you ask me.

            • The Onda Xiaoma 41 MicroSD is running on a USB 2 hub, so limited to 24Mb/s, but from my USB 3.0 port and the HyperX savage pen drive it does indeed run like an SSD, it quickly show it and mention all is working in the review.There was no need to go into greater depth with it as it’s all good.

    • I was just thinking that they should design these tablets so that you can use them in portrait mode too.

    • That’s what the usb port is for 🙂
      This is meant to be a cost reduction product, for coding on the go it would be better to go with the X5 Pro since it has 8gb ram and 256gb ssd

      • You are probably right. I guess I want too much for a low price. What I need is basically a surface pro (I also like to sketch on-the-go 😀 ), but I don’t want to spend that much money. But, haven’t I ended up spending exactly the same amount of money as I would have, had I bought the Surface Pro in the first place?

        In my quest to obtain a cheap Surface Pro 4 clone, I bought a cube i7 pro (~300 €, customs, shipping). To increase the limited storage space I added a 64gb TFcard (~40 €), which is, unfortunately, not recognized. A wacom styles (~30 €) to sketch, but the cube i7 pro unit I got from aliexpress seem to have really pen calibration around the edges of the screen, so the sketching experience is not smooth. Owing to the same faulty build quality, my cube really likes to BSOD during important stages of text editing, or code compilation, making it a really unreliable coding on-the-go buddy. To finally match the specs of the entry level Surface Pro 4, I was thinking of performing the thermal pad mod (~30-40 €), and adding a 128-256 GB SSD (~70-140 €). To sum up, the real price of the clone is/would be 470 € – 540 €…

        Makes me wonder why not just go with a Surface Pro 4 entry level for about 750 €?

    • Honestly I’m also looking for a surface like tablet that can basically handle your coding or programming without any hitch….but it’s been a hard find.

      • I really don’t understand this. You can run Linux on as little as 8GB disk space with no problem. I have been running Manjaro Xfce 17 on a 66GB partition for the past month with all sorts of software installed – including the Sublime Text and Atom code editors, downloading movies, etc., and I still have 40GB of free space left. Is there some reason why you have to do your programming in the Windows OS? I understand that 128GB would be nicer to have, but 64GB is plenty for Linux especially since you can cheaply expand this via SD/USB memory:
        USD$18 Sandisk 64GB USB 3.0 flash drive – http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sandisk-ultra-fit-64gb-usb-3-0-flash-drive-black-silver/9090295.p?skuId=9090295

  6. Samsung has produced 3GB LPDDRM module before(so it could be 2x 3GB) and has showed off a single 6GB LPDDR4 module.

    • 2 modules of course are better for dual channel access.. both ddr3 and 4 supported by that cpu

    • Okay well I hope it’s not a single 6GB ship. But what I have seen on the motherboards of all Apollo Lakes so far opening them up is the use of 2GB chips with room for 4 of them around the SoC. My guess is Teclast just fill 3 of the 4 on the motherboard. But we can’t be certain unless I take a peak. But opening these tablets is a lot harder…

      • just noticed the (photoshopped) black block labelled 6GB on the photos.. it better look like that when you open 1 up or that’s false advertisement

    • Good news. 2 x 3GB chips, so it must be that Samsung 3GB chip.

  7. I find that 6GB is actually a good amount of RAM. I rarely go over 4GB use in daily tasks even with a boat-load of browser tabs open – I often have 30 or more tabs running. I rarely go over 4GB usage on Linux, not saying anything about Win10 because I almost never use it.
    Btw Chris, since these Celeron N3450 chips normally run Linux just fine here is an easy way you could add a quick test of running Linux on your devices under review – Install a version of Manjaro Linux Xfce v17.0 onto a USB thumb drive. This version runs well off of USB in “data persistent” mode, meaning it runs exactly like running off an HD/SSD/eMMC. What you do is create a USB 2.0 install disk as normal, boot that up, then install choosing a USB 3.0 thumb drive as your target/destination.
    It’s very easy/straight forward and runs surprisingly fast from a USB 3.0 drive. This is the first version I have found that I am happy with that runs in “data persistence” mode. Manjaro 17 also is running the very latest Linux Kernel and drivers.

    • The nice thing is you will then have this Linux version on a USB drive that you can then use to run a quick test on any tablet/notebook you are reviewing. You could add a couple minutes to each review showing if it can bootup and run basic things on Linux. Assuming of course that access to BIOS boot options are simple for most devices.

        • Thanks got it working, very nice looking distro. Great news on my Onda Xiaoma 41 it runs perfectly. Everything is working, audio, touchpad, display brightness, wifi ac and battery info etc. Really good to see that! I will include this in my Xiaoma 41 review (Work in progress) and future reviews.

          • Wow, nice. That is a pleasant surprise. I hope all the main devices work on the Chuwi Lapbook as well. The problematic ones are usually Audio, Wifi, and Bluetooth.

          • Btw, about the different flavors (desktops) of the Manjaro disto: KDE is the fanciest with various animation effects and other UI sugar. Mate and Xfce are the most “lean”, fast, and smaller memory usage. For users who just want the best performance and bootup/shutdown time go for Xfce, *especially* if installing onto a USB destination.

      • I’ll give it a go, I have a Kingston HyperX savage USB 3.1 drive with like 250mb/s reads more than up to the task if it boots that is!

        • You prob know, but I recommend using the latest version of Rufus on Windows for burning the ISO to LiveUSB drive.

    • Hi Brad, So it will support Apollo Lake the kernel? I tried Linux Mint and Ubuntu on the Lapbook and Jumper EZBook 3 and they all loaded up with only an underscore being displayed on a blank screen. Just _ and it locked up. I’ll give Manjaro Linux Xfce v17 a go soon then.

      • Chris, I thought so. But given your failures. I will look into it and report back.

        • Linux Mint and Ubuntu do not run the latest Kernel versions (currently 4.9 stable and 4.10+) so that might make a difference. Let me see what I can find out about the kernel support for the N3450 and other Apollo Lake processors.

      • @Chris, yeah Mint and Ubuntu will work on the Chuwi Lapbook and yes, it must be running with a latest kernel (though I am not sure if that means 4.9 or only 4.10 will work). Here is a guy who gave a review of installing Ubuntu 17 onto his Chuwi Lapbook and says all seems to be working well: http://www.cnx-software.com/2017/02/07/installing-ubuntu-17-04-on-chuwi-lapbook-14-1-apollo-lake-laptop/
        Now granted this is a full install and not what I was recommending. But this looks promising that Manjaro 17 installed onto a USB destination should run OK since Majaro 17.0 ships with Kernel v4.9.

        • As per the other post, Manjaro Linux is working perfecting running of my USB pen drive, everything works. Looks good. Thanks for the info.

          • @Chris another thing. I have seen you test out games in your reviews I suppose because many of your viewers like to play games. I don’t play games at all, but I did notice something called “Steam” which is some sorta games platform for Linux. I have never used it and don’t know which games it has or if any are good. I think it comes installed by default on some of the distros.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUjCTv7yZao

          • @Chris, I just saw this flash sale on Gearbest of a $155 mini-pc by Voyo with 4GB+64GB and the same Apollo Lake Celeron N3450 CPU. Seems like that would make a pretty decent Linux desktop for cheap. Have you reviewed this or a similarly configured one?
            VOYO V1 VMac Mini PC: http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_606551.html

        • Again to stress – Manjaro 17 XFCE is the first version of Linux that I have found that is easy to install onto a USB destination and runs well there, persists changes, is reasonably fast, *and* does not touch your other HD partitions. I tried creating this kinda thing using Linux Mint and it fouled up the Grub (dual boot) configuration on my SSD. Freakin’ pissed me off – def install bug there with Mint. My existing Windows and Linux partitions were OK, but I had to take the time and jump through hoops to get my Grub config working again. Manjaro seemed to do things correctly leaving the HD alone.

    • That Voyo V1 I’ve reviewed (4200 version), nice mini PC but it lacks an internal Wifi module. Review is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk5i3fvmIJc

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